The Voat Situation

Exactly this. Phuks is where the chill portion of Voat went(we came from a text based gaming sub for fucks sake). Most of us came to Voat before CT got banned, and were never big on those people.

But I went to voat hoping for a reddit alt. I believe in free speech to much to ever go back to reddit. Voat's great if you can tolerate the noise, but this place seems really chill, the type of place I was looking for all along. Might just stay regardless what happens, if you guys don't mind.

. like voat was before voat became more of a chan alternative.

But Voat is NOT a chan board. The views may be similar, but the site format is still undeniably based on Reddit.

Not really. Look, the front page of phuk is literally all talking about voat and most of the posters were voaters.

The userbase is totally lacking here. No offense, but this place seems dead af. Just look at s/gaming and compare it with voat's gaming subverse.

What I like about voat is that, while it is filled with hate, it is also a nice political news dump from conservatives point of view, where people can freely discuss about it. Something that you can't really do on reddit because both the company and most of the mods are die hard leftists. This place is not that, and I doubt it will ever be that. People just don't seem to talk about politics here.

good to have ya buddy

Honestly? I'm 75% of the same opinion as you. Everything just seems a lot more relaxed, over here. If it does come back up, I'll probably pop back in to voat, every now and then, simply because of the sheer amount of content, relative to phuks. I've curated my list of subscribed subs pretty heavily, and mainly stick to the news and discussion subs, anyway. But my most active days are most definitely behind me.

That being said, on a relative tangent and addressing OP: kevdude's been pretty shitty, for a while now. A few of us are of the opinion that he sold his account for sweet shekels; that someone bought it specifically to stir the pot, in the wrong kind of way. Everything that guy's done, in recent history, has been detrimental, in some way or another. Which means: if he's talking shit about Phuks, then it's a +1 for this site, IMHO. All that guy does, now, is cause drama and scare away people of lesser-thicked skin. Honestly, screw him. He burnt any good opinion that I had of him, a long time ago.

EDIT:

There is a difference between open discussion and merely being a cunt. This is not Stormfront, and you will be expected to be civil(remember /v/thedinnertable?).

This is why I plan on staying.

The hosting provider for Phuks does have some rules on content(no inciting violence, etc.) and the TOS is enforced.

This makes me a little less comfortable, but we'll see how it plays out. It might just be all in my head.

Voat is expected to be up at some point, and you can happily return to your shittier /pol/.

Alright: no. Have you even been to /pol/, lately (either one of them)? Voat is to wagyu steaks as the chans are to meat-glue steaks. There's no comparison. At least voat had other content besides, "FUCKTHEKIKESRACEWARNOW".

He needs an official flair of “goat herder” now. Or a badge. @Polsaker @pembo210

I would argue that opinions are silenced more on Voat due to the hivemind mentality than they could ever be on Phuks. I've known the admins of this site from MP and IRC, and I have no reason to believe that polite and civil discussion will ever be censored on this site.

I could use a break from all the drama, politics, and 4d mental gymnastics. Being chill and decent to each other seems like a breath of fresh air. Some of those guys on voat truly act like posting there is their job with life and death consequences.

While I appreciate people wanting to make the world a better place, watching them cheer when some Muslim maniac runs over 20 people gets to be a bit much.

At this moment, I am of the mind that this is not a better or worse place than Voat. Merely different in slight ways.

That is an excellent way to put it. We are not trying to be 'better' than Voat, just different.
Nobody has to pick a side. Hybrid Goat-Foxes do exist and are welcome.

The only people not welcome are those that feel the need to attack opposing views, or feel brigading is a valid way to express themselves.

I am torn. On one hand, I do appreciate unfiltered speech as it is a sign that no opinions shall be silenced (aside from truly illegal content). As a proponent of free speech, I appreciate that. On the other hand, I seriously enjoy real discussion and less shitposting/circlejerking, of which Voat has a great deal of, sadly.

Opinions aren't generally silenced here, basically if you can state your opinion/argument in a civil way, a way where most people can tell you've actually put thought into your opinion, it's completely welcomed here. We just don't want the full blown-autistic short bus of shouting many areas of Voat turned into, you know the subs where you wonder "who left the megaphone cabinet unlocked when the special kids were visiting". Most of the people I've seen come over so far can conduct themselves like civil human beings so I doubt there will be a lot of "mod drama".

Man, I made the same argument with the name. I was overruled.

I'd love to see some more content, for sure. Or at least higher quality. The best we've got at the moment, imo, is the stuff @LockeProposal does. He's a champion.

Personally, I like having the tight-knit community where everyone knows each other, but I'd also like to see more content. I think currently the best thing for specialty subs is for their mods to be consistent in posting content(e.g. /s/HistoryAnecdotes).

I also think the name is bad, but I've come to appreciate it in a strange way. Perhaps users here stay for the community/content in spite of the name.

Feelings about that are mixed.
I don't think anyone is opposed to growth, but being small does have benefits.
I think most of us would be happy with growth, just apprehensive about where the community goes.

With slow growth, new users acclimate to the existing culture. But with rapid growth sometimes there can be conflict or displacement.
I was wary at first, but am impressed with those that have stayed.

I'm not a spokesperson though, I just act like it. :)

Really, there are some very non-civil discussions that take place occasionally, and they are tolerated. But I think everyone, including users having those discussions would rather not waste any more time than necessary on them.

Is it allowed to have civil and polite discussions about controversial subjects, and trans-racial adoption studies?

Again: I am not an admin, but to my knowledge that is completely allowed.

"discrimination" is vague, is it discriminatory to state discriminatory facts?

It is against the TOS to incite discrimination, e.g. "We should keep blacks out of our schools"

Those examples you mentioned, if brought up like you just did, would be well received. Will people agree? Who knows, but that's not the point.

What won't be well received? A post as follows:

Title: Blacks are dumb and that can't be changed

Body: [meme]

Because that's not a discussion, that's just... dumb.

I get the sentiment, but we don’t need that. We need a user base that isn’t afraid to stand up for its values and an active mod/admin team. If this thread is any indication then I think we will be just fine.

we don't need ProtectPhuks.

We have moderation.

anon schooled him rhetorically and he deleted all his comments and insisted anon give up his username so he could get a downvote brigade.

We already have an /s/ProtectPhuks, and its sole purpose is for me to test SDBH CSS on it.

Please do not threaten our users. We have been open and answered every question thrown at us. We didn't ask for 150 new people to show up and start messing with us. We are trying the best we can. We offered on numerous occasions to help setup sites and freely give away years worth of our code development so anyone can run their own site.

Hmm. I did see ADHDferret having some disagreements about the decision to raid Phuks. Specifically, he was against doing it (citing that they didn't like it when SRS raided Voat). I would wager that this is either a finely layered move or a sincere motion by ferret. Either way, I just want to chill for a while and I know a few other Voaters feel the same.

You know I read somewhere that Phukkers don’t like people acting like a dick you sure push the envelope on this matter.

Why are you so hostile to Voaters? I agree there are some weird ones there but I have also had the opportunity to meet very cool people.

What is your motive acting like an ass to goats and how does this help Phuks to grow and not be a dick about it?

Honest questions here mate...