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So as we all know, voat.co went down a couple days ago. I haven't seen a comprehensive write-up on the situation yet, so I'm putting this out there.

voat.co now presents a 503 error:

The server is currently unable to handle the request due to a temporary overloading or maintenance of the server. The implication is that this is a temporary condition which will be alleviated after some delay. If known, the length of the delay MAY be indicated in a Retry-After header. If no Retry-After is given, the client SHOULD handle the response as it would for a 500 response.

By this, we know that Voat is not gone for good. It is not the end. All the Stormfags will still have their board.

Some Voat users went to /r/Voat in confusion, but their thread was mysteriously deleted. All of the most current posts on /r/Voat seem to be about how Voat sucks.

Voat is still accessible at the old beta preview site, which is currently has the largest congregation of Voat users. Using this site, Atko has confirmed that Voat is not being abandoned. EDIT: It has been pointed out that Atko has not necessarily confirmed that Voat is OK. His exact words were

I don't have any info on what happened. At this point, everything is possible, but there is also a good chance that Putt is simply enjoying a golfing trip somewhere in airplane mode and that everything will be back to normal in a few days.

Currently the front page of the site consists of some /pol/ tier memes, despair about Voat, and some shit about raiding Phuks.

Let's talk about the raids.

Kevdude made a post to /v/ProtectVoat, stating that Phuks "could use some Nazi content," and saying that the userbase is composed of "faggots who attack Voat" and "cancer mods." Seeing as the point of ProtectVoat was to keep Voat from being phukked by SRS, this is a rather strange thing for him to do.

For all coming from Voat(and take this with a grain of salt as I am not an admin):

Phuks is more or less a free speech site. It's somewhat reminiscent of Voat in the early days, before Reddit banned CT. Opinions are not censored, and we encourage open discussion. HOWEVER:

There is a difference between open discussion and merely being a cunt. This is not Stormfront, and you will be expected to be civil(remember /v/thedinnertable?). The hosting provider for Phuks does have some rules on content(no inciting violence, etc.) and the TOS is enforced. If you have a problem with that, Voat is expected to be up at some point, and you can happily return to your shittier /pol/.

If you're chill, welcome aboard.

So as we all know, voat.co went down a couple days ago. I haven't seen a comprehensive write-up on the situation yet, so I'm putting this out there. voat.co now presents a [503 error](https://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html): >The server is currently unable to handle the request due to a temporary overloading or maintenance of the server. The implication is that this is a temporary condition which will be alleviated after some delay. If known, the length of the delay MAY be indicated in a Retry-After header. If no Retry-After is given, the client SHOULD handle the response as it would for a 500 response. By this, we know that Voat is not gone for good. It is not the end. All the Stormfags will still have their board. Some Voat users went to /r/Voat in confusion, but their thread was [mysteriously deleted](https://www.reddit.com/r/Voat/comments/8daj5v/whats_going_on_with_voat/). All of the most current posts on /r/Voat seem to be about how Voat sucks. Voat is still accessible at [the old beta preview site](https://preview.voat.co), which is currently has the largest congregation of Voat users. Using this site, Atko [has confirmed](https://preview.voat.co/v/whatever/2137800) that Voat is not being abandoned. EDIT: It has been pointed out that Atko has not necessarily confirmed that Voat is OK. His exact words were >I don't have any info on what happened. At this point, everything is possible, but there is also a good chance that Putt is simply enjoying a golfing trip somewhere in airplane mode and that everything will be back to normal in a few days. Currently the front page of the site consists of [some /pol/ tier memes](https://preview.voat.co/v/whatever/2137800), [despair about Voat](https://preview.voat.co/v/whatever/2137890</a>">https://preview.voat.co/v/whatever/2137890), and some shit about raiding Phuks. Let's talk about the raids. Kevdude made [a post](https://preview.voat.co/v/whatever/2137793) to /v/ProtectVoat, stating that Phuks "could use some Nazi content," and saying that the userbase is composed of "faggots who attack Voat" and "cancer mods." Seeing as the point of ProtectVoat was to keep Voat from being phukked by SRS, this is a rather strange thing for him to do. For all coming from Voat(and take this with a grain of salt as I am not an admin): Phuks is more or less a free speech site. It's somewhat reminiscent of Voat in the early days, before Reddit banned CT. Opinions are not censored, and we encourage open discussion. HOWEVER: There is a difference between open discussion and merely [being a cunt](https://imgoat.com/uploads/97da629b09/106311.png). This is not Stormfront, and you will be expected to be civil(remember /v/thedinnertable?). The hosting provider for Phuks does have some rules on content(no inciting violence, etc.) and the TOS is enforced. If you have a problem with that, Voat is expected to be up at some point, and you can happily return to your shittier /pol/. If you're chill, welcome aboard.

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[–] PhusNewFag 3 points (+3|-0) Edited

Using this site, Atko has confirmed that Voat is not being abandoned.

He said that "I don't have any info on what happened. At this point, everything is possible" - this does not exclude the possibility that voat is abandoned.

There is a difference between open discussion and merely being a cunt. This is not Stormfront, and you will be expected to be civil(remember /v/thedinnertable?).

What if you have an open discussion with someone whom you consider to be or act like a cunt?

Is it allowed to have civil and polite discussions about controversial subjects, like heritability of IQ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ) and trans-racial adoption studies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study)?

I've read the TOS, it states that "Posting content of any kind that incites discrimination, hate or violence towards one person or a group of people because of their belonging to a race, religion or nation is strictly prohibited.".

Now, to discuss these things would not be inciting violence, "hate" is subjective but I don't think it qualifies to stating facts in a neutral manner. (though some may attribute that as an intention, which cannot be proven) and "discrimination" is vague, is it discriminatory to state discriminatory facts?

[–] smallpond 4 points (+4|-0)

Really, there are some very non-civil discussions that take place occasionally, and they are tolerated. But I think everyone, including users having those discussions would rather not waste any more time than necessary on them.

Is it allowed to have civil and polite discussions about controversial subjects, and trans-racial adoption studies?

Again: I am not an admin, but to my knowledge that is completely allowed.

"discrimination" is vague, is it discriminatory to state discriminatory facts?

It is against the TOS to incite discrimination, e.g. "We should keep blacks out of our schools"

[–] PhuksNewfag 3 points (+3|-0)

If that's indeed the case I might end up liking this place more than voat.

[–] E-werd 2 points (+2|-0)

Those examples you mentioned, if brought up like you just did, would be well received. Will people agree? Who knows, but that's not the point.

What won't be well received? A post as follows:

Title: Blacks are dumb and that can't be changed

Body: [meme]

Because that's not a discussion, that's just... dumb.