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[–] [Deleted] 9 points (+9|-0)

you are owed zero explanation

Maybe that's how many of the voaters feel, but I don't agree.

With sites like Voat the community is the content. They deserve to be in the loop.

[–] Violentlight 8 points (+9|-1)

It sounds so much like reddit. The group think discouraging any criticism of the site or admin. How are you suppose to make anything better if you are not allowed to talk about its faults?

Its a clear symptom of an echo chamber. Even here. You have voat refugees coming here. They don't get the response they are use to, so they go back to voat. They make a post talking about how stupid Phuks is. They then get the response they wanted and feel better. It sedates them. It comforts them.

[–] Owlchemy 7 points (+7|-0)

Absolutely agree. If you're that tone deaf that you don't even realize you need to post even a simple 'I fucked up, sorry' sticky to the user base in all this time that's passed since the 'days of darkness' I don't think they (Putt) have a clue.

Personally, I think Voat is history and the next (and it will) goes down there will be no cavalry jumping in to fix it. I lurk now and it looks to me that the number of posts being input has dropped considerably. I'd be curious to know how many users like myself have moved on.

[–] PMYA 6 points (+6|-0)

It's been a week since he reappeared and noticed the site was down. I'm not bothered if something is wrong, because it doesn't affect me, I'm just growing increasingly curious as to what the fuck is going on over there.

[–] JoeKerr 6 points (+6|-0)

Thank you for posting this...between the canary, Voat's financial situation, and the 503 error...it is time to jump

[–] chmod 4 points (+4|-0)

Something is seriously wrong. I kept going over this weekend but there was nothing at all out of Putt despite him saying he couldn't wait to post after my "ultimatum."

It also seems that because I'm a very old Voater I can't delete my account. Every time I try it says I'm globally banned.

Regardless, the place has transformed into something toxic. I hope that doesn't happen here.

[–] OeeThaGreat 1 points (+1|-0)

From my understanding, account age has nothing to do with it. @Dudicles had a slightly older account and was able to delete it. I on the other hand am unable to delete mine and I receive the same error as you.

[–] chmod 1 points (+1|-0)

Oh I thought it was just old accounts. Still, it's suspicious to me.

[–] OeeThaGreat 2 points (+2|-0)

The fact that it's not all old accounts makes it even more suspicious to me. Especially since I voiced my thoughts about deleting my account and then BAM Im locked out from deleting it.

The weirdest part is that I tend to stear clear of political discussions and was never really a part of all the drama, except for some casual Sanegoat mischief.

[–] Dudicles 0 points (+0|-0)

Yeah, I joined Voat in June of 2015 and was able to do a full deletion of my account. It definitely seems suspicious to me that some people can and others can't.

[–] Middle_Pillar 3 points (+4|-1)

First off, Voat has completely changed. I don't know what is going on with Putt, but now when I log on I get seriously depressed. All the people I met, I'll probably lose a few. Switching over here seems inevitable. I don't thinking the place will make it to the end of summer.

Second, why does everyone blame SBBH and SDBH for everything? Why does everyone think they're SRS or some other infamous group. They always just seems like people messing around shitposting.

[–] [Deleted] 3 points (+3|-0)

I never understood the malice towards SDBH, just seemed like a few blokes fucking around having some fun.

[–] Mattvision 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

The boxhammer subs are like small enclaves from the rest of Voat, with their own separate groupthink and everything.

When the rest of Voat observes their antics, and notices they aren't paranoid about X taking over Voat, or that Putt and Atko aren't literal Gods, they get suspicious. Opinions like that are out of place on their site, so they must have been put there by SOME EVIL LEFTIST SJW CABAL!!!

And it doesn't help that we attack the sub that's supposedly there to protect them from those specific threats, by posting bread or whatever all over them. But it's too funny watching them react to not do it, sooooo.....

[–] Adhdferret 2 points (+2|-0)

It isn't the same which is why I left a week before you, and attempted doxxing within the Anon subs. They are fucking relentless with it so I said fuck it take this echo chamber without admin involvement.

It is akin to letting the inmates run the asylum now. No discussion within any thread really. Just people calling each names to inflame because there isn't any consequence.

I get when you are discussing a topic, but just doesn't happen as they are direct attacks all the time and so many 2y accounts with zero history popping up to be dicks.

My theory is that Voat was just a corner to put all the unwanted within Reddit which is why so little upkeep or new features. I get loss of interest or life happens, but many people sunk money into Voat and lots of time.

Admin never trusted anyone else with anything either. Always a tight knit of select people from the beginning and that is something I always noticed.

I begged for admin to allow a community manager to at the very least keep up with subverse transfers, but always an excuse or nothing at all. 2 years ago he said there would be something.

Instead somehow they can see who posts on Anon just like needlestack said they can. They did it to me on a comment. I showed her as well before I deleted my account. So put lied to the user base and now he is banning accounts.

Fuck that place was just a way for them to make money and keep an element off Reddit. I doubt anything with law enforcement has ever happened or will happen and the trolls show that with their shit talk and various emails I have got from people to build them an AR lower.

Saying they will pay me via Bitcoin to keep it under the books. Essentially commiting a felony because trolls. So I forwarded each email to the ATF and spoke with them directly about it. In length to which they are investigating.

Because them offering me good or services in the act to circumvent the law in itself is a felony. Multiple ones matter of fact and since many of them are self proclaimed drug users, or even criminals then it makes it worse they did it.

I hope that since put gets into deep fucking shit for allowing it to happen after I emailed him about it and got nothing back. Wanna act a fool and lead by example? Well ignore it and see what happens you son of a bitch.

[–] chmod 1 points (+1|-0)

How much for you to build an AR lower from an 80%? Legally? And how would that work with the background check?

Sorry I'm off topic but I'd like to build an AR but don't think I could do the lower myself.

[–] Adhdferret 0 points (+0|-0)

https://phuks.co/s/DIYGUNS/26753

Here you go. This is how much and pretty much everything I got. I went and got a few things to make it comfortable for me like a drop in trigger, better pistol grip, some offset iron sights, and just small stuff.

The write up there will get you a bang stick that is fully functional.

Far as legality this is the cool part. Here in the USA you can make a firearm for yourself without the need to get approval to do so. There is no serial number or registration just have a firearm.

It is why I made this sub. After the parkland shooting it became very apparent to me that soon enough all states will follow California and not ban guns outright, but slowly ban the things that make the AR15 what it is.

Now there are limitations to doing this. One being that within California you do have to put a serial number on it. I would check local laws or if you just give me the state you live in I can tell you.

I am in PA and there isn't any restrictions to this.

Everything in that write up will be mailed directly to your house. The lowers take a while because as you can imagine they are a hot item right now.

[–] Dudicles 0 points (+0|-0)

I believe for him to sell legally to you, he'd have to send it to a place with an FFL (Federal Firearms License) as a middleman (most pawn shops do this for a fee, I believe), where the background check would take place when you go to pick it up. I'm not sure if he as the seller would be required to do any record keeping, but the pawn shop would record the transaction.

[–] Middle_Pillar 1 points (+1|-0)

Wow. Had no idea it had gotten quite that bad. Seems like our blind squirrel finally found a nut (sanegoat).

Care to post the proof of them trying to pay you off? Or the sillyness in the anon subs?

[–] Adhdferret 2 points (+2|-0)

This site has a strict no doxxing rule and quite honestly they have a no drama unwritten rule. You can either believe me or not. As I know this is there house and I don't want to fuck that up. They gave me a place to do my gun thing and they didn't have too.

[–] OeeThaGreat 0 points (+0|-0)

Funny thing about the Needlestack stuff is that she was one of the people trying to persuade me to stay. Asking questions about why does the canary matters and do we really need a website that's micromanaged.

Im not actually concerned about the canary because of the content I have posted. What I am looking for is the transparency from the admin about the state of Voat. And just a bit more admin interaction would be greatly appreciated. Not micromanagement, just a fucking response and solution to issues at hand.

Judging from the messages I have received from Needle and others, I highly suspect that most of the major voices on Voat have been bought out or taken over by the entity that has taken over Voat. Or they have all drank the koolaid and I'm taking crazy pills.

[–] Adhdferret 1 points (+1|-0)

Spoke with needlestack a couple times. It was her that brought the attempted doxxing to my attention. I deleted my shit right after that.

You may be right about the bought accounts. I am certain that other than me, empress, redouexx, and maybe a few others were not.

Needle I don't think was, but she was originally a protect Voat mod during the she thing and later stepped off. I think she just is holding out to see if it can be like it was.

[–] Boukert 3 points (+3|-0)

There are issues with things right now. I'm trying to find a block of time to push an update. - Puttputt

Most detailed explanation to date, and that's more then 4 days ago

[–] Owlchemy 4 points (+4|-0)

No attempt to sticky a simple ... short but sweet ... acknowledgement from putt tells more to me than anything. It doesn't or didn't need to be detailed. Just a simple thing that would take a few minutes, instead, his responses have been buried in other threads. Makes no sense to me.

[–] fusir 2 points (+2|-0)

I'm sick of this "something weird happened, must be SBBH". I've been on voat 3 years+ and I still don't know what SBBH is but I doubt they are behind every bad thing that happens.

[–] Dudicles 1 points (+1|-0)

Perhaps this is Putt's way of trying to get certain types of posters to leave voluntarily instead of going the reddit route of banning. He just acts like a dick when he decides to "grace" Voat with his presence, and never follows through with commitments or even courtesy announcements about problems, and the only people who stay are his sycophants and buddies, and then they implement whatever stipulations and rules they want without push back.

[–] Violentlight 1 points (+1|-0)

I noticed someone in the comments say that Putt has been commenting. He sure has. He seems to have a ton of time to dismiss everyones concerns about the site. Still no time to actually address the issue though. He seems to be acting like a fucking asshole in his comment history though.