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[–] [Deleted] 1 points (+1|-0)

im not sure i agree that marijuana is a good comparison. people don't smoke weed because they want to stick it to the man. at least most who aren't angsty teens don't. its not a conscious effort to undermine the government unlike this post and it (at least debatably) doesn't negatively impact society at large like undermining public health directives during a continuing pandemic.

i'm not sure i follow how this applies to the chauvin trial. i'm not one who thinks that police should have unlimited qualified immunity nor that they should have none. i am of the belief that any accidental or incidental death that happens while in government custody is unacceptable and deserves an adequate response and i'll post badcopnodonut posts but i'm not trying to say that police don't have authority or should be ignored.

[–] CDanger [OP] 0 points (+0|-0)

its not a conscious effort to undermine the government unlike this post and it (at least debatably) doesn't negatively impact society at large like undermining public health directives during a continuing pandemic.

You got to look at the long game here. There is far more at stake than a current disease that is 99.7% survivable and that has a freely-available vaccine if you want it. I'm all for undermining blind trust in institutions that have demonstrated themselves to be corrupt and give horrible advice and directives. Instead I am for building up the skeptical mind of our population and improving critical thinking skills. This blind trust of authority is what harms society, and the singing chorus about how this is all so great while we get our civil liberties stripped away even further is so tiresome.

[–] [Deleted] 1 points (+1|-0)

i mean, blindly undermining is just as bad if not worse than blind trust. i don't trust blindly. just like you, i take in lots of information and have calculated my position accordingly. if conditions haven't improved substantially in another year, i'll be right there with you in saying this has gone too far for too long but at this point, the virus is still kicking, mutating, killing... its too soon to expect this to be done.

[–] CDanger [OP] 1 points (+1|-0)

It's not really blindly undermining. I'm not going to target the EPA, Postal Service, or Department of Interior for undermining, for example, because they're not doing anywhere close to the harm as what's being pushed out in the response to covid by the leaders all over in the US, Canada, UK, Germany, etc.

if conditions haven't improved substantially in another year, i'll be right there with you in saying this has gone too far for too long

We all have our own lines in the sand and timetables. For me the proven and self-admitted lying from these individuals was that line a year ago. The fact is there is so much misinformation pumped out there that it isn't even worthwhile to try to figure out the truth to much of any of this. Do masks work? Are the vaccines safe? It doesn't actually matter too much for me and my risk calculation. If I were an 85-year old obese smoker with heart disease in a nursing home, I'd get the vaccine in a heartbeat.

But I'm not. For me it's much better to spend my time exercising, thinking positive thoughts, working on self improvement, and eating delicious and healthy meals rather than listen to whatever blanket, dumbed-down diktats are coming out of the ministry of truth this week. It's not really worth the effort to try to weed through their lies or omission and commission and doubletalk. I'll let time work on this problem for me, and I'll check back on this in a couple years once we actually have some answers to these questions. This is also the better course for many, many people out there rather than accepting orders from our overlords and refusing to reign them in and hold them accountable.