im not sure i agree that marijuana is a good comparison. people don't smoke weed because they want to stick it to the man. at least most who aren't angsty teens don't. its not a conscious effort to undermine the government unlike this post and it (at least debatably) doesn't negatively impact society at large like undermining public health directives during a continuing pandemic.
i'm not sure i follow how this applies to the chauvin trial. i'm not one who thinks that police should have unlimited qualified immunity nor that they should have none. i am of the belief that any accidental or incidental death that happens while in government custody is unacceptable and deserves an adequate response and i'll post badcopnodonut posts but i'm not trying to say that police don't have authority or should be ignored.
not sure I agree that marijuana is a good comparison.
Civil disobedience of the Civil Rights era, then.
unlike this post
You give me too much credit.
doesn't negatively impact society at large
It's choosing between a rock and a hard place. In the end I decided that cooperating with a lockdown and mask mandates was more harmful to society than my back-of-the-napkin worst case scenario of 2 million dead inside 3-4 months (with a 20% of being one of them).
civil rights era civil disobedience may be a better comparison but not by much. not many (though too many still) owe the successes of the movement to the most extreme among them who actively undermined government authority and spread extreme ideology. whether you would consider a sit-in to undermine or just oppose authority i suppose is debatable, though.
i was talking about this post, not your comment.
first off, you can't calculate other peoples' risk for them and by not adhering to public health policy, you endanger others more than yourself (unless you have a condition). second, i'm glad 2 million dead in months sounds fine to you but its not acceptable to normal people. finally, i'm going to want to see that napkin math.
its not a conscious effort to undermine the government unlike this post and it (at least debatably) doesn't negatively impact society at large like undermining public health directives during a continuing pandemic.
You got to look at the long game here. There is far more at stake than a current disease that is 99.7% survivable and that has a freely-available vaccine if you want it. I'm all for undermining blind trust in institutions that have demonstrated themselves to be corrupt and give horrible advice and directives. Instead I am for building up the skeptical mind of our population and improving critical thinking skills. This blind trust of authority is what harms society, and the singing chorus about how this is all so great while we get our civil liberties stripped away even further is so tiresome.
i mean, blindly undermining is just as bad if not worse than blind trust. i don't trust blindly. just like you, i take in lots of information and have calculated my position accordingly. if conditions haven't improved substantially in another year, i'll be right there with you in saying this has gone too far for too long but at this point, the virus is still kicking, mutating, killing... its too soon to expect this to be done.
We all undermine that which we find unjustified. That is how progress happens, as demonstrated most recently with marijuana fans. Legalization would never have started happening if people didn't undermine it first.
You and I switch sides of this argument on the subject of the Chauvin trial, I think.
Inevitable, at any rate. Police are a lesser evil than murderers and thieves.