Going vegan doesn't make you a pussy, Nimai Delgado, and world record holding vegan strongman Patrik Baboumian
It is cruel to kill an animal that doesn't want to die. It is unnecessary cruelty. Vegan diets are nutritionally adequate
Fair enough, you're right.
No animal wants to die, correct? Animals want to pass on their genes, etc.
We can't judge animals for killing each other, because they don't understand the concept of morality. If a retard did something immoral, it's hard to judge him/her if he/she doesn't understand morality.
The world won't turn vegan overnight. It will happen slowly, and animals will be bread less and less.
Do you think cows and other animals on small farms, have it worse, or better than the wild?
Let's do pigs, yeah? I don't think cows and chickens can survive in the wild now. Pigs can. Pigs would definitely have a better life in the wild. And you inserted the context of small farms. 99.9% of animal products come from factory farms, which are hell holes. http://www.gary-tv.com/garymain/opinions/quotes/
Fair enough, you're right.
No animal wants to die, correct? Animals want to pass on their genes, etc.
We can't judge animals for killing each other, because they don't understand the concept of morality. If a retard did something immoral, it's hard to judge him/her if he/she doesn't understand morality.
The world won't turn vegan overnight. It will happen slowly, and animals will be bread less and less.
> Do you think cows and other animals on small farms, have it worse, or better than the wild?
Let's do pigs, yeah? I don't think cows and chickens can survive in the wild now. Pigs can. Pigs would definitely have a better life in the wild. And you inserted the context of small farms. 99.9% of animal products come from factory farms, which are hell holes. http://www.gary-tv.com/garymain/opinions/quotes/
No animal wants to die, correct?
That's not a valid argument. We don't know that, and it doesn't matter because the answer doesn't change anything.
We can't judge animals for killing each other, because they don't understand the concept of morality
So you do agree that animals are not equal to humans? Is that fair to say, or not?
understand the concept of morality
What makes you think you do? Or that you're right?
Pigs would definitely have a better life in the wild
Are you just taking a guess? As someone who has spent a large portion of my life in remote areas I can tell you that nature is harsh. Pigs would not have a better life. Wild boar live only a fraction of the time that domestic pigs do. Raccoons in the wild have an average life expectancy of 4 hard years, in captivity they live 15. The same trend holds true for all animals. Small farm animals live in paradise compared to the wild.
Livestock can have a good life, and even wild animals are better off when there is hunting.
99.9% of animal products come from factory farms
You don't have to go vegan to eat responsibly.
The world won't turn vegan overnight
A slow genocide is still a genocide. Fortunately, it's not going to happen. There are enough animal lovers, like me, that will prevent it. You really think extermination of an entire species is the 'moral' thing?
Nature is all about balance. Any extreme is disruptive, even if it is well intentioned.
> No animal wants to die, correct?
That's not a valid argument. We don't know that, and it doesn't matter because the answer doesn't change anything.
> We can't judge animals for killing each other, because they don't understand the concept of morality
So you do agree that animals are not equal to humans? Is that fair to say, or not?
> understand the concept of morality
What makes you think you do? Or that you're right?
> Pigs would definitely have a better life in the wild
Are you just taking a guess? As someone who has spent a large portion of my life in remote areas I can tell you that nature is harsh. Pigs would **not** have a better life. Wild boar live only a fraction of the time that domestic pigs do. Raccoons in the wild have an average life expectancy of 4 hard years, in captivity they live 15. The same trend holds true for all animals. Small farm animals live in paradise compared to the wild.
Livestock can have a good life, and even wild animals are better off when there is hunting.
> 99.9% of animal products come from factory farms
You don't have to go vegan to eat responsibly.
> The world won't turn vegan overnight
A slow genocide is still a genocide. Fortunately, it's not going to happen. There are enough animal lovers, like me, that will prevent it.
You really think extermination of an entire species is the 'moral' thing?
Nature is all about balance. *Any* extreme is disruptive, even if it is well intentioned.
Come on, I don't honestly believe that you think animal abuse is okay. Is it really that controversial to say that it's wrong to needlessly kill animals?
How do you claim to be an animal lover if you pay for animals to be needlessly killed? "I love people, but I hire hit men to kill people."
Most people blow up when vegans mention the word genocide, but you're right. It is a genocide. 60,000,000,000 sentient beings are needlessly slaughtered every single year. In this millennia alone, that's more than 1 trillion animals.
If we could stop this needless killing, why wouldn't we?
Come on, I don't honestly believe that you think animal abuse is okay. Is it really that controversial to say that it's wrong to needlessly kill animals?
How do you claim to be an animal lover if you pay for animals to be needlessly killed? "I love people, but I hire hit men to kill people."
Most people blow up when vegans mention the word genocide, but you're right. It is a genocide. 60,000,000,000 sentient beings are needlessly slaughtered every single year. In this millennia alone, that's more than 1 trillion animals.
If we could stop this needless killing, why wouldn't we?
That's not the point. Please refer to my original comment.
You've not answered a single question.