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Radical free speech is important and a cornerstone of the US. Yeah, you've got some real shitheads on voat but also a lot of decent people that just don't hold the previously approved PC opinions. The internet was way better before it began to coalesce into megacorps like google, fb, and reddit. Instead of defending free speech they caved to advertisers. The issue w/ that is someone is always pissed off by something and the smallest groups shout the loudest. Now we've got a situation that's gotten out of hand and even regular conservatives are targeted. Voat is basically a concentration camp for free speech online. They've rounded up all the "wrongthinkers" and sent them to one place.

Before reddit and that Mountain Dew (the hitler did nothing wrong naming contest) troll happened /pol/ was libertarian more or less believe it or not. The PC left is Frankenstein and Voat's their monster. Assholes were fewer and farther between online before they all got shipped to the same place.

When you start inventing shit like "micro aggressions" and telling everyone their racist nonstop... I could provide a thousand other examples. The left has even managed to bring back segregation on college campuses only this time they're called "safe spaces" and black only dorms.

The Radical Left and the Far Right are every bit as bad as each other and more alike than they are different. They both have a need to be authoritarian in order to stay in power. (Horseshoe Theory)

Reddit, Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, etc. have no shortage of racists. They've just got the "right kind" in our weird double-standard culture.

Radical free speech is important and a cornerstone of the US. Yeah, you've got some real shitheads on voat but also a lot of decent people that just don't hold the previously approved PC opinions. The internet was way better before it began to coalesce into megacorps like google, fb, and reddit. Instead of defending free speech they caved to advertisers. The issue w/ that is someone is always pissed off by something and the smallest groups shout the loudest. Now we've got a situation that's gotten out of hand and even regular conservatives are targeted. Voat is basically a concentration camp for free speech online. They've rounded up all the "wrongthinkers" and sent them to one place. Before reddit and that Mountain Dew (the hitler did nothing wrong naming contest) troll happened /pol/ was libertarian more or less believe it or not. The PC left is Frankenstein and Voat's their monster. Assholes were fewer and farther between online before they all got shipped to the same place. When you start inventing shit like "micro aggressions" and telling everyone their racist nonstop... I could provide a thousand other examples. The left has even managed to bring back segregation on college campuses only this time they're called "safe spaces" and black only dorms. The Radical Left and the Far Right are every bit as bad as each other and more alike than they are different. They both have a need to be authoritarian in order to stay in power. (Horseshoe Theory) Reddit, Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, etc. have no shortage of racists. They've just got the "right kind" in our weird double-standard culture.

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[–] PhuksNewfag 1 points (+1|-0)

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." Oscar wilde

I think it's wrong to assume that the places that provide free speech and anonymity or pseudonymity do not reflect real people's opinions.

That they act differently in real life might just be because they're afraid to lose their job or depending on where they live may face even worse consequences.

Also in my opinion the people on 4chan or 8chan are much nicer to each other even if they use harsher language than the people on facebook, since everyone is anonymous you cannot insult another persons looks, religion, color, past opinions, sex etc. since all these things are hidden from you. You can insult groups you don't like but you cannot really insult individuals you're having a conversation with.

Facebook is pretty much the opposite. You cannot insult groups because it's wrongthink but can backtalk and bicker with individuals.

[–] E-werd 0 points (+0|-0)

I think it's wrong to assume that the places that provide free speech and anonymity or pseudonymity do not reflect real people's opinions.

I get what you're saying, but I disagree. I would define a person's real self as the one you'll see in the real world. All things that matter take place in the real world, outside of the internet. Politicians are real people, your coworkers are real people, your friends are real people. Sure, they may have different views in their minds than they admit to outwardly, but what does it matter if they would never act on it? What's a powerful bark if the dog will never bite?

[–] PhuksNewfag 0 points (+0|-0)

This might change overtime as the overton window (what is socially acceptable to say) changes. It will also influence whom they vote for and what they'll teach their children in the privacy of their home.

All things that matter take place in the real world, outside of the internet.

Donald trump certainly didn't get elected because of positive mainstream media coverage, I think it's fair to say that it was the internet that elected him. If the internet, and it was mostly limited to a handful of communities partially quarantined from the rest of the internet, can elect a president despite non-stop negative media coverage, it probably matters a lot.

Also almost every major political movement started as a fringe group, including the political correct movement that was made fun of by monty python 50 years ago and no one really took serious. Or Christianity. Or the Nazis, who went from 2.5% to >40% in less than 5 years.

http://histoire.museeholocauste.ca/data/timelines/gen/images/large/Chart_NaziPartyRise_ENG.jpg

We might be one financial depression away from the alt-right becoming a mainstream movement.

[–] E-werd 0 points (+0|-0)

http://histoire.museeholocauste.ca/data/timelines/gen/images/large/Chart_NaziPartyRise_ENG.jpg

Wow, that jump in 1933 had me looking for a timetable of events and I wasn't disappointed. That's a lot of major events to happen in short succession, it reminds me of the October Revolution in Russia. Wikipedia: 1933 in Germany, October Revolution: Insurrection

Donald trump certainly didn't get elected because of positive mainstream media coverage, I think it's fair to say that it was the internet that elected him.

Well, I'll agree that it played a big part in the rest of the country. I'm not sure about the area you live in--we've already hinted that we may be in totally different areas--but around here Trump got a lot of word-of-mouth. I'm in a major swing state that got Trump elected--Pennsylvania. It was a spectacle to behold, supporters came out of the woodwork. If the people didn't outright support him, they wanted to blow shit up (the camp I was in). The rest of them just didn't want to see another Clinton or Obama-like character. The Obama years were not positive overall for Pennsylvania.

We might be one financial depression away from the alt-right becoming a mainstream movement.

I'm not going to disagree, and I'm worried about that.