It would be on a separate page (opt-in, I don't want to murder batteries) and users could get XP (to remove captchas earlier, etc) or some of those spots credits to draw dicks on the canvas.
What do you guys think about that? We're currently testing that here.
EDIT: Use this one now. This one keeps track of how much everybody has contributed
XP is relatively innocent now, but I'm trying to think ahead to the future if Phuks does well, and isn't as laid-back and friendly as it is now.
Voat has found a need to restrict 'hostile' users and uses CCP-based popularity to do so. I'm concerned that XP will be one-day be used to separate privileged users from others, merely because you don't really have any other measure available to use in this way. (I've made suggestions of alternatives in the past.)
I like statistics, and XP measures the sum of up and downvotes on all posts and comments - it's nice to see that number. (Only some users seem to have been gifted 1000 XP as well, which perverts that, and already implies that it's used as a de-facto power level.)
XP was intended to game-ify Phuks a bit, and higher levels are only supposed to unlock cosmetic features (except for the captcha bit). That's why every badge gives XP on top of the sum of the user's score.
I think we'll settle for giving a badge to users who contributed a lot. That badge will give extra XP, just like every other badge
I know you guys like games...
For me having XP as some arbitrarily weighted sum of contributions via, up/downvotes, badges, coin mining and whatever else, just makes it all the more meaningless. Perhaps have an info link next to it to explain how it's calculated.
I think a user's badge is quite clear on their profile, and don't have any inclination to try to convert that to some equivalent number of upvotes and add it to their XP score. XP will become easier to earn via up/downvotes in future as well.
XP is relatively innocent now, but I'm trying to think ahead to the future if Phuks does well, and isn't as laid-back and friendly as it is now.
Very good point. And I think the devs here get it. Cosmetic rewards would be fine, if they keep that in mind.
Voat has found a need to restrict 'hostile' users and uses CCP-based popularity to do so.
That could be scary. Are they taking the hive-mind to the next level?
Heh, we replied at the same time :p
That could be scary. Are they taking the hive-mind to the next level?
In the long term, every community that does self-moderation ends like that after growing a lot :(
That's a part of why XP/score doesn't do much here on phuks (the other part is that we were too lazy to code that, but don't tell anybody)
That could be scary. Are they taking the hive-mind to the next level?
I'm considered a 'hostile' by many on voat, and with a negative CCP score can only comment and upvote 10 times in any 24 hour period, can't downvote, IM other users, and have post restrictions too.
Voat's hivemind has been amplified in this way for over two years now. To some surprise, PuttItOut has recently stated an intention to change CCP restictions, but we'll see if he follows through on that.
I don't think Xp gives any additional rights, once past the initial validation period(captcha). All the stuff he's talking about is decorative.
I agree with you that users should not gain any rights or special abilities. But I think meaningless points, and custom flair, is a great idea if it adds some motivation, or makes the contributors happy.