Trump tells Mideast leaders of plan to move embassy to Jerusalem in break with U.S. policy

> I think this is the crux of our disagreement. As far as I can tell they took it fair and square. Arab nations want to cry foul after invading their neighbor and losing? That dog don't hunt. Thats the whole point between the rest of the world and the US/Isreal stance in this fucking issue.... Based on international law Isreal's occupation is still considered fucking illegal. But am I right in concluding you are actually advocating muscle diplomacy and pure landgrab now? So China's occupation of Tibet, Russia's intervention in Ukraine and Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus are all fair and square? > This is a more muddy issue, but hear much about Palestinian propaganda in this area. Such as using excessively shoddy construction so that Israel is obligated to knock down the 'school' for building code violations. Pocket the saved expense to buy more weapons. This is not a motherfucking muddy issue by a fucking longshot and convinces me you are not read up/well informed on this conflict at all. Really you should check proper sources and history books on this because i can't even begin to point out "fake news" and "bias" in this remark. This is by far the most ignorant thing i've heard about this conflict in the past few years, it could even be a fucking Trump tweet and smells like weak breitbart bullshit all around. Apart from the whole shrinking palestinian area's, walls, seperate checkpoints and general treatment as second rate citizens/ apartheid circumstances here's some fucking links, i got plenty more if you're done with them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy#Crime_of_apartheid_and_Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahr_El-Baqar_primary_school_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafr_Qasim_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Israel%E2%80%93Gaza_conflict http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Children_and_Youth_Soldiers_Testimonies_2005_2011_Eng.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Fact_Finding_Mission_on_the_Gaza_Conflict#Accusations_against_Israel https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2016/05/10/israel-sloopt-in-hoog-tempo-wat-europa-betaalt-1617665-a702321 Dutch article about IDF systematically destroying humanitarian projects funded by the EU in occupied territory Oh and I'm well aware the palestinians/HAMAS/Hezbollah/PLO etc are bastards as well! > It highlights that at least one side (quite possibly both) does not want peace. I'm not saying peace in the Middle East is hard; I think it's nigh-impossible short of the literal Apocalypse. One 20 year old example, with the previous generation of leaders..... bravo...... This has no context here. And yes this is one of the most complex issues in modern history where Jews and Muslims (of all people) are in conflicting interests. It might be mindboggling to you but there are actually multiple parties involved here on both sides. Off whom some want peace on both sides and some dont want peace on both sides... Just ask those asshole orthodox settlers taking more and more land. Might be to nuanced for murican viewpoints..... > For something this petty? It's almost like they're just looking for an excuse. Even if we assume that Israel is wrong to hold East Jerusalem, they controlled West Jerusalem from the start of this mess. There should be nothing controversial about a country putting its embassy there. [I could divert you to this comment as this is basically the same remark you made earlier](https://phuks.co/s/News/19529/48239f7a-db71-44e1-93b5-ac798583c166), but I hate repeating myself; Making an international diplomatic move in a century old, highly tense conflict and calling it petty......really? It's not just the fucking embassy, it's the acknoledgment of Jerusalem as capital ..... This was planned somewhere along the peaceprocess and Trump just took a fucking shortcut undermining everything build over the last decades. Donny just waisted all trust and goodwill built over 2 decades while fueling hate in the region and purposly destabilising the region for something "petty" like this.....It has shown again that the US is not a trustworthy partner on a global scale.... And no this move is not something petty to the ones stuck in this conflict even though you keep mentioning this to yourself, repetition does not make it true.... You know what Petty is? Petty is REEEEEEING about NFL players taking a knee, getting into twitterfights with anyone who is critical towards you using all caps and incoherent sentences....... that's true petty..... > Doing the right thing despite international pressure? To me this pretty much embodies that ideal. It's not like he's putting the Iraeli embassy in Istanbul against Turkey's wishes. Total bullshit and your example is making 0 sense....... If I have to be blatantly honest you've shown to not be informed enough about this to even have a remote idea what "the right thing" is..... the whole world rejected this move.... still it's the right thing ofcourse, because the rest of the world rejected it, it has to be according to good ole fashion redneck ignorant fee fees logic...............