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  1. No memes or images. Exceptions may be made in the case of images of an ongoing news story becoming available.
  2. User-edited titles are not allowed. Copy the headline directly and use it as the post title.
  3. News articles written over a month before posting must have the date of the article in the post title.
  4. No social media/blog/YouTube links. Exceptions may be made if information about an unfolding news story/crisis emerges on Twitter, for example, or if it is the official account of a news source.
  5. No paywalls. Use an archived link to post a paywalled article.
  6. Translate non-English articles.
  7. This is not a hard rule, but please be civil.

We had a small discussion about it ages ago with a little feedback but no rules were made. I took some of the feedback and made this rough draft.
1. No memes or images. Exceptions may be made in the case of images of an ongoing news story becoming available. 2. User-edited titles are not allowed. Copy the headline directly and use it as the post title. 3. News articles written over a month before posting must have the date of the article in the post title. 4. No social media/blog/YouTube links. Exceptions may be made if information about an unfolding news story/crisis emerges on Twitter, for example, or if it is the official account of a news source. 5. No paywalls. Use an archived link to post a paywalled article. 6. Translate non-English articles. 7. This is not a hard rule, but please be civil. We had a small discussion about it ages ago with a little feedback but no rules were made. I took some of the feedback and made this rough draft.

31 comments

[–] Kannibal 0 points (+0|-0) Edited

I wouldn't mind a set a sub for edited headliners that are deliberately not "clickbait", but the world for the opposite of "clickbait" escapes me at the moment. especially since the obvious choices will tend to be gamed.
[–] [Deleted] 0 points (+0|-0) Edited

I love 1. One of the things that really got to me about Voat was memes and text posts being posted to news or pics and no moderation enforced.

2: I don't know if I like as a lot "news" titles are editorialized to begin with. Maybe users should be allowed to edit? Although; and I'm to blame too, there can be users that editorialize the titles to 'win' upvotes. So this rule might be for the best.
[–] Bq5w5D7F 0 points (+0|-0)

Rule 4 is bogus. Alternative media is CRUCIAL for receiving actual news these days and alt media is on social media, it's on youtube and other sites.

[–] [Deleted] 0 points (+0|-0)

Yeah, number 4 is definitely a problem in the social media age. Corporate owned media on both the left and right have been shown to lie and be willfully dishonest by leaving things out of a story that give it context.

If you'll watch this video you'll find it pretty eye opening. It was for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebu6Yvzs4Ls

George Zimmerman's a complete jackass but everything in the video is factual and I'll find you multiple sources for any claim. The story was distorted the whole way through the trial for financial and political gain. Manufactured outrage is often their business model. The only way to come close to finding truth these days is to examine as much as you can then draw your own conclusions.

[–] Skyrock 0 points (+0|-0)

Regarding rule 2: Allow amendments to the original title in brackets. Sometimes the official headline itself is leaving out relevant information or the location. That still allows to add relevant information directly into the title, but prevents butchering the entire headline and shows what part comes from the user, not the news source.
[–] Mattvision 1 points (+1|-0)

Rule 7 is going to give all our new guests PTSD. Maybe at least define what exactly you mean by "not a hard rule"?

Also, rule 2 could use some wiggle room. These days, the original title of any given article could just as easily be shitty All-Caps clickbait as any user-edited title. So why not just make a rule against obvious clickbait, all caps, general titlegore, etc?
[–] PMYA [OP] 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

Yeah it should be made clear in the wording that there may be some cases where small alterations to the title makes sense. /s/News is modded by Phuks admins + unruly, who has had experience with /v/news, so whatever the ruleset ends up being, actual enforcement is going to be reasonable.

So why not just make a rule against obvious clickbait, all caps, general titlegore, etc?

This would be ideal, but it just makes things harder in practice. Someone made the point in the old discussion, unruly I think, that a lot of the trouble moderating /v/news was caused by the editorialised title ban, because people sometimes felt their post was unfairly removed due to there not being a solid definition of what editorialised meant.

Edit: in response to rule 7, nothing will get removed unless it breaks TOS or the other 6 sub rules. I just think it would be a good idea to have it there as a guideline more than a rule, insulting each other and arguing over personal stuff just detracts from the actual discussion of news topics.
[–] pembo210 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

Rule two will have room. I prefer to remove the caps and state the title like normal And Not Cap Every Word stuff. It's more for when people add conjecture to the title like "something happened, because he doesn't like us." I often add more info from the article to make the titles less clickbaity.
[–] jidlaph 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

I also would like to chime in on #4: Allow social media posts for Happenings, but with the notice that they will likely get deleted and the links rolled into a Megathread before too long.
[–] pembo210 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

yeah, any mass deletions would need to include all the original thread links as well, maybe archives too, so people can go back and see all the original threads and interact with them.

edit: maybe even require a sticky for a while to make sure the people know

edit2: also a list in the sidebar or link to one that contains links to all megathreads
[–] jidlaph 1 points (+1|-0)

Hey how difficult would it be for a post and its comment threads to be converted into a comment tree under a megathread? Just shunt the entire conversation over.
[–] InnocentBystander 1 points (+1|-0)

I am also not sure about #4.

How about something like direct-source social media only. Meaning if a subject of the news posts a social media, or if the social media is a part of the news, it ok.
But no random tweets from unconnected people expressing opinions.

There's a better way to word that I'm sure, but I think you know what I mean.
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