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My main complaint is that he is orange. Really my only complaint. He looks pretty normal in person though.

My main complaint is that he is orange. Really my only complaint. He looks pretty normal in person though.

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He lacks the class that I prefer a state leader to have. To some extent, that's also his appeal though. It gives the impression that he believes what he says.

[–] TheRedArmy 3 points (+3|-0)

To some extent, that's also his appeal though. It gives the impression that he believes what he says.

This is honestly his biggest upside. You don't have to think too hard to know how he actually feels about stuff.

The class factor is also a big downside, though. I actually like a fair few of the foreign policies he wants to push - the Jerusalem capital thing and the hard-line stances on Iran and North Korea - I think the basic policy is a good one. I like that he is not afraid to call out the despostic and tyrannical countries that exist in the world for their despotism. I like the way our ambassador to the UN has been talking at assembly. I have many more problems with the domestic policy, but it's not like it's all bad.

The problem is that no one has stolen his phone from him yet, and he has no tact at all. You could easily have the same stances and policies, but with a composure and class that brings with it an air of dignity, that also makes the things he says more serious and substantiative in its own way. You don't need to resort to petty insults (Rocket Man), get into fucking Twitter arguments about who's nuke-cock is bigger, or have "Fake News Awards" either.

I briefly mentioned domestic policy, and while his general theme is lower taxes and smaller government (which I like), I doubt that he'll be effective at it. The tax cut was very good, and I suspect he will end up - like basically all modern presidents - contributing more to the debt, and increasing spending rather than helping that problem. Also, I don't care for the border wall or his general policy on immigration, since I believe in human freedom on a global scale. I think restricting immigration while you have a welfare state is reasonable, as well as being more thorough about individuals from known terrorist countries, but I'm pretty sure he wants to limit immigration as a value and not a practical matter, so I can't agree with that.

[–] PMYA 3 points (+3|-0)

In relation to the phone, I would actually be very interested to find out what kind of phone he uses. I find it hard to believe that he has a secure phone similar to the ones previous presidents have used if he is using it to tweet. His requests for foreign leaders to call him on his mobile instead of through the White House was also kind of sketchy.

[–] jidlaph 3 points (+3|-0)

You could easily have the same stances and policies, but with a composure and class that brings with it an air of dignity, that also makes the things he says more serious and substantiative in its own way.

One man's air of dignity is another man's air of politician. The 'dignified' tone has become too tarnished, and it will be years before the unwashed masses accept it again.

[–] TheRedArmy 3 points (+3|-0)

One man's air of dignity is another man's air of politician. The 'dignified' tone has become too tarnished, and it will be years before the unwashed masses accept it again.

This isn't entirely incorrect. But I think you could speak in a plain and straight-forward style, and that would be enough to separate yourself from the rank-and-file "elite class" without resorting to being somewhat petty and vulgar.

[–] KFCNyanCat 4 points (+4|-0) Edited

I dislike his pro-war on drugs stance. I don't think trickle down works. His tax plan works only to rich peoples' advantage (the way he phrased his announcement makes me think he seriously thinks most Americans are that wealthy.) He's pro-Israel. "Drain the swamp" seems like a lie with his cabinet featuring swampy people from Goldman Sachs and ExxonMobil.

Pretty much my whole problem with him comes down to "I'm left wing." The only thing I actually like about him is that he's better than Mike Pence.

[–] [Deleted] 3 points (+3|-0)

fairly similar to redarmy.

i prefer a harder line internationally than we had under obama, though sometimes his rhetoric that affects other countries' affairs goes too far. i too agree with the whole jerusalem thing, though.

i view most healthcare as a more fundamental human right than social security and certain welfare and tax credits which i view as something that should be handled totally or significantly more by the private sector & individual.

i think a physical wall is the dumbest possible way to secure the mexican border (and the canadian border is way more porous). for a fraction of the price, the government could throw up a few satellites or drones to track any border crossing and have additional small outposts for ICE or local law enforcement so they can scoop up anyone under the satellite or drone's guidance. a wall is just going to delay anyone a minute. people on the other site like to point out that it works for israel but israel is a small, densly populated country with conscription so effectively guarding walls is not such a strain. you guard deserts though the skies as has been proven repeatedly.

immigration wasn't in as sorry a state as trump liked to say. we have a very stringent immigration process compared to most places. if you have any friends who immigrated since 9/11 they can probably attest to it. we have an insanely low number of terrorist attacks considering we are pretty much the devil to like 3/4 of the world.

i like that he cut taxes but i think it was an awful deal for the average american. corporate tax rates should have been trimmed and if possible give a window to bring overseas cash and assets to the US tax free (which would have pissed off china rather than europe). the tax breaks on the rich shouldn't have happened, i disagree with tax credits for kids, and the income tax cut should really have been permanent.

i'm not a fan of his hissyfits that he throws, very unpresidential behavior, though in fairness he's throwing hissyfits at people throwing hissyfits at him so i can't fault him too much there.

i have a hard time believing that a new yorker born with a silver spoon in his mouth knows how to improve the average american's situation. i expect the economy will continue to grow in his term and that he will continue to play a significant role in that but with the corporate and rich tax breaks, we have 3-7 years of trickledown economics (ie offshore hoarding) to look forward to.

i don't like how involved his kids are. i'm still gunshy from the last guy who thought that because his dad was president, he could do it too.

i think its funny that so far he has spun his tires exactly as hard as obama did to start.

overall, though, he's not a terrible president. i mean, i'm not confident i will ever see a president i'm fully proud of but he's probably better than hillary would have been. i stand by my third party vote. i came up with more reasons i dislike him than i expected, i tried to keep to the question and state his flaws in my eyes but there are plenty positives to him too, i know.

(and the canadian border is way more porous)

The north and south borders can't accurately be compared. In the south the US is trying to keep people out. In the north they are trying to keep people in. About the only illegal thing that crosses south is weed.
Illegal immigrants, gun smugglers, and hard drugs all cross north.

I do agree with your view on a wall, just nit-picking.

we have a very stringent immigration process

I don't think many people have an issue with legal, regular immigration.
It seems to be the ones that bypass the requirements by being a 'refugee' or just crossing illegally, that are getting people upset.
It doesn't really matter how stringent the process is when it is easy to bypass.

[–] [Deleted] 1 points (+1|-0)

the current threat from the north may not be the same but its canada that lets in all the refugees. it takes 2 years from applications to landing in the US as a refugee, my italian friend managed it in just over a year. i don't know why people seem to think its so easy to get in as a refugee.

its canada that lets in all the refugees.

No, you've got it backwards. The refugees that we intentionally bring in stay here. They don't try to go south.
Illegals get into Canada through the US because the US is much easier to get into.
Recently many have been using BS refugee or asylum applications to get into the US. They eventually get rejected by the US system, but by then the immigrant has already moved to a sanctuary, or run the border into Canada.

Getting into the US, if you don't care about laws, or are willing to manipulate them, is very simple and is big business.