We've got no go zones in the US. They're called black ghettos but you're not allowed to say it. If I simply make eye contact w/ a pedestrian from my automobile driving through one it often elicits an angry response. You'll find these in cities of all sizes. When my sister lived in the relatively small town of Lynchburg for a few years her car broke down six blocks from the place she was renting at the time. Needed a new alternator belt was all. I drove out there and during the course of replacing it the next day I was threatened three times by various people in less than an hour. Literally just a few blocks over you encountered none of that where she was living.
I've always found it funny the most predominantly anti-gun white people live in the whitest areas and countries. When people from the UK, Canada, or Australia criticize US gun laws I can't help but laugh. Your countries are roughly 90% white and don't actually have free speech.
Apart from my point above being about politicians who make a statement on record, then get confronted with their statement (held accountable for a lie), call it lies and "fakenews" on their turn, while there is obvious proof they made those remarks.
I'll engage in this debate a bit:
I've always found it funny the most predominantly anti-gun white people live in the whitest areas and countries. When people from the UK, Canada, or Australia criticize US gun laws I can't help but laugh. Your countries are roughly 90% white and don't actually have free speech.
I've always found it funny it's only Americans from predominantly white rural areas that stampede over any opinion differing from them towards gunlaws or any reasonable critisism/ discussion on them.....
I agree with the point @pmya makes somewhere in these threads.
We live in countries where we decided that having guns among general population is a bad idea. Guns are illegal (very hard) to get, gun possession has harsh penalties and police very actively pursue illegal guns or sightings of them. There are very, very few guns among our population, which is our normal state. Imagining gun distribution among our population is an abnormal idea dismissed upon by an overwhelming vast majority. I mean it isn't even an issue on the political agenda for any political party in these parts.
You live in a country with an abundance of guns and some sort of weird lovestory /fetish with them. Restricting guns in your normality would make you "vulnerable", as others would be a threat due to having the advantage, cause "guns are everywhere" and so automatically there are "threats". With such an abundance of guns, tis culture and guncontrol being a massive political issue, its an abnormality for you to think about restricting access.
Not judging or anything just trying to sketch viewpoints, as it is generally incredibly difficult to have a proper constructive conversation with Muricans about this issue. As our reference points are completely different and Muricans tend to go from 0-100 in an eyewink over this.
You make a good point about it not even being a political issue. I can't remember a single instance of it ever being a policy of even a fringe party to lobby for removing gun laws in the UK.
Muricans tend to go from 0-100 in an eyewink over this.
Let me clue you in on a little secret: it's nothing to do with guns. It's about personal liberty and the gun debate is a manifestation of that. We watch from across the pond at you guys trying to do "knife control" and we see how the slope has already slipped. You can't ban guns, because I can make a gun with parts from Home Depot. Ask the aussie gangs who fabricate their own firearms. So you don't just ban guns, you ban guns, the tools to make them, pointy objects, 3D sintering/printing machines, etc etc. Americans realize this, and we realize that with all the bad that comes from free gun ownership, there is a lot of good that gets overlooked in the screaming matches between both sides. BTW I don't own a gun but the second somebody tries to pass a law banning them I'll obtain several. A huge portion of this country has the same mindset.
"Shall not be infringed"
Not wanting guns in the country has nothing to do with ethnicity. I don't want guns in the UK because it will lead to more murders, plain and simple.
This does not necessarily mean I would advocate scrapping gun ownership in the US though, as it would be impractical to do so.
FBI crime statistics don't show that. It would be impractical in the US as we collectively have more guns than citizens so I agree on that point. 13% of our population commits over half of all violent crimes and murders. You can easily cut that number down by excluding, most women, children and black men of a certain age. The reality is 6% of the population commits half of all murders and violent crimes. In areas w/ strict gun control like Chicago you only see one trend. Criminals still have guns and get prosecuted lightly by liberal politicians b/c to do otherwise would be "racist". If you really want to see something interesting in our crime stats we don't classify "gang related" crimes as mass shootings even when they meet the criteria of people killed. Therefore they never make national news. Sweden does much the same thing interestingly but in a different way. "Gang Related" crime isn't terrorism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden
Crazy we hardly have any grenade attacks in the US w/ a massively larger population. Sweden doesn't have a "terrorism" problem. It's illegal to collect racial crime stats there. In the US they simply combine "white hispanics" w/ the white figures. I could show you an endless array of "white" convicts that are actually hispanic.
There are good people in the world of every race and religion. Pretending certain groups as a whole aren't more inclined to murder and violence is absurd when the data always indicates otherwise. It's like saying a labrador is as likely to kill you as a pitbull. They're both dogs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kkib-3ruvI
The state of US republican politicians at the moment