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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

Highlights that I love:

About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated, according to new data published Friday by the CDC.

Meaning that the vaccine does not stop infection or spread. It does not.

The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people who get infected carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people.

That means that they're every bit the little super-spreaders that unvaccinated people are and are contributing to mutations of the virus same as everyone else if not more since they're all acting like they won't catch or spread it. This also means that there will never be herd immunity. Ever.

with four of them ending up in the hospital

The vaccine is not the answer to this pandemic, only to people not dying.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html Highlights that I love: >About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated, according to new data published Friday by the CDC. Meaning that the vaccine *does not stop infection or spread*. It does not. >The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people who get infected carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people. That means that they're every bit the little super-spreaders that unvaccinated people are and are contributing to mutations of the virus same as everyone else *if not more* since they're all acting like they won't catch or spread it. This also means that there will never be herd immunity. *Ever*. >with four of them ending up in the hospital *The vaccine is not the answer to this pandemic, only to people not dying*.

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[–] ScorpioGlitch [OP] 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

This is a particularly heinous virus, though. No vaccine that we have today will stop it from spreading, even among the vaccinated. That means we need to provide an avenue where it completely dies, not have everyone running around like crazy, spreading it from person to person so that everyone has it and creates new strains.

The fact that no one wants to hear this is a serious medical problem and could end up killing a very significant percentage of the population.
[–] [Deleted] 1 points (+1|-0)

I acknowledge the problem.

That's one reason why I'm so adamant about the vaccinations. Staying masked around people is still the best way we have just now of slowing the spread. But then, again, the idiots who rail and rant about masking are doing more to spread the virus than I can do to stop it.

The initial strategy was to remain isolated for a time. Too many people have the idea that they are somehow above the rules and so we had walking virus factories who refused to wear masks, and probably still refuse, though hopefully they're choking their out last breath somewhere, by now.

Isolation is still the most effect means to stop the spread.
[–] ScorpioGlitch [OP] 1 points (+1|-0)

It doesn't matter. There's a lambda variant which is vaccine resistant and about as highly infectious as the delta strain.

Isolation of every person on the planet for two to three weeks is the only solution. That means we're all screwed.
[–] [Deleted] 1 points (+1|-0)

I wish we were organized enough to do a FULL 3 week isolation as a species. It would not just affect COVID but other illnesses. Impossible in our society though ... Would definitely be better than the current restrictions and having a depression
[–] Butler_crosley 1 points (+1|-0)

Except it has already shown that it can jump between species. Let's say we isolate every human being for two to three weeks and are successful at stopping the spread among humans. We haven't stopped the virus or its' evolution just pushed to another species and just kicked the proverbial can down the street. What happens when it jumps back to humans and has evolved into an even worse virus? We all isolate again? Just keep kicking the can down the street and hope that the scientific community can catch up quickly enough to the new variants? Or do we learn to treat it as essentially a super flu and let people go on with their lives? More people are going to start distrusting the scientific community and governments if we force everyone to isolate everytime a new variant shows up.

If anything we need to loosen the regulations that slow down research and keep potential treatments stuck in trials for years. The mRNA vaccines are made so that they can easily be changed and produce in mass in a much shorter time frame than traditional vaccines which can take years to redevelop.

Also, remember what happened to the boy who cried wolf too many times...

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