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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

Highlights that I love:

About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated, according to new data published Friday by the CDC.

Meaning that the vaccine does not stop infection or spread. It does not.

The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people who get infected carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people.

That means that they're every bit the little super-spreaders that unvaccinated people are and are contributing to mutations of the virus same as everyone else if not more since they're all acting like they won't catch or spread it. This also means that there will never be herd immunity. Ever.

with four of them ending up in the hospital

The vaccine is not the answer to this pandemic, only to people not dying.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html Highlights that I love: >About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated, according to new data published Friday by the CDC. Meaning that the vaccine *does not stop infection or spread*. It does not. >The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people who get infected carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people. That means that they're every bit the little super-spreaders that unvaccinated people are and are contributing to mutations of the virus same as everyone else *if not more* since they're all acting like they won't catch or spread it. This also means that there will never be herd immunity. *Ever*. >with four of them ending up in the hospital *The vaccine is not the answer to this pandemic, only to people not dying*.

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[–] [Deleted] 2 points (+2|-0)

The vaccine is not the answer to this pandemic, only to people not dying.

I think most people are okay with the not dying part. Also, everyone is always a virus carrier. I haven't heard of a vaccine that prevents that from occurring with any virus-borne illness.
[–] ScorpioGlitch [OP] 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

This is a particularly heinous virus, though. No vaccine that we have today will stop it from spreading, even among the vaccinated. That means we need to provide an avenue where it completely dies, not have everyone running around like crazy, spreading it from person to person so that everyone has it and creates new strains.

The fact that no one wants to hear this is a serious medical problem and could end up killing a very significant percentage of the population.
[–] [Deleted] 1 points (+1|-0)

I acknowledge the problem.

That's one reason why I'm so adamant about the vaccinations. Staying masked around people is still the best way we have just now of slowing the spread. But then, again, the idiots who rail and rant about masking are doing more to spread the virus than I can do to stop it.

The initial strategy was to remain isolated for a time. Too many people have the idea that they are somehow above the rules and so we had walking virus factories who refused to wear masks, and probably still refuse, though hopefully they're choking their out last breath somewhere, by now.

Isolation is still the most effect means to stop the spread.
[–] ScorpioGlitch [OP] 1 points (+1|-0)

It doesn't matter. There's a lambda variant which is vaccine resistant and about as highly infectious as the delta strain.

Isolation of every person on the planet for two to three weeks is the only solution. That means we're all screwed.
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