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All the things they beg to be free takes someone's time to produce.

It's only fair that if these people have to give their time for free, people wanting free stuff should start by refusing pay for their time.

But they won't because we all know it's all about "give me free" anyway.

All the things they beg to be free takes someone's time to produce. It's only fair that if these people have to give their time for free, people wanting free stuff should start by refusing pay for their time. But they won't because we all know it's all about "give me free" anyway.

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[–] ScorpioGlitch [OP] 0 points (+0|-0) Edited

Those socialized healthcare countries pay close to 50% taxes. It's not free. It shifts the burden. It's not my responsibility to work extra hours for you because you can't stop eating large fries and a super sized milkshake for every meal.

If you want to get caught up in minutia in order to say that the whole thing is a fallacious argument, that's all on you but I won't engage it because it all stems from envy.

It's simple: People who claim all these things are human rights need to step up and start working for free and lead by example.

Edit: Gotta love the backpedalling. Dude wants to talk about healthcare in exclusion to anything else but gets unhappy when farmers (the subject of food) is brought up. Whataboutism for me but not for thee.

[–] PMYA 2 points (+2|-0)

It does not simply shift the cost of healthcare into tax, that is completely false and seems to be a common American misconception of how it actually works in reality.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42950587

But even if you look only at public money spent on health, the US government's spending on healthcare still outstrips UK government spending, both in terms of the proportion of its GDP (the way we normally measure the size of a country's economy) and in terms of how much it spends per head.

Almost half of US health spending still comes from public money including general taxation - although it's the only country in the G7 to pay publicly for less than 50% of all healthcare that's provided.

Essentially you are paying more money in taxes than we do for healthcare, yet still have a system that prices tens of millions of people out of healthcare. Like I said, the pushback against socialised healthcare that people have in the US is based on idealism, not reality. It's not about paying more, you're already paying for it, you just aren't getting it.

It does not simply shift the cost of healthcare into tax

That's not what I said. You're not very good at this, are you?

[–] PMYA 2 points (+2|-0)

Those socialized healthcare countries pay close to 50% taxes. It's not free. It shifts the burden.

Elaborate? Is that not what you're trying to say? What am I not very good at?