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Something I've been thinking about the past few days is how Phuks is the remaining site of these news aggregates which is morally carrying on the torch of:

  • Freedom of speech

  • Fair and just moderation and rules

  • Transparency

  • Decent, constructive user base

  • Admin contact with the community

These are all things Reddit and Voat once stood for. On paper, they still claim to stand for these things but empirically they don't actually execute those ideals.

Reddit has lost to corporatism, selective application of rules, corruption, an indecent user base and "fair speech" as opposed to free speech.

Voat is slightly better, but it's lost to lack of admin contact with the community, transparency to an extent, fair and just moderation, decent constructive user base.

Now, while the user base on these websites are for the most part good people, it's the loud minority that are doing all the damage.

Phuks isn't perfect in regards to freedom of speech, but that's a matter of infrastructure than principle. Since we don't have conversations that really push the boundaries of the server ToS, this isn't an issue, but it has the possibility to be if Phuks were to grow.

I remember having multiple conversations with /u/Boukert about this while Phuks was just merely a sperm. Now that it's actually a working website with a community, I've seen those important ideals executed on this website.

What was originally envisioned for Voat and Reddit, Phuks is now carrying on and EXPANDING upon.

This isn't just a half-wit news aggregate website. This is evolving to be more. I've seen it, I know the future. This isn't skimping on features and stability, which was a massive issue with Voat. This is carrying on the torch, which on those platforms have been inhibited since mid-2016 at most.

This is what Aaron Schwartz and Atko envisioned. Not a cesspit of corporatism and lies like Voat and Reddit.

Something I've been thinking about the past few days is how Phuks is the remaining site of these news aggregates which is morally carrying on the torch of: - Freedom of speech - Fair and just moderation and rules - Transparency - Decent, constructive user base - Admin contact with the community These are all things Reddit and Voat once stood for. On paper, they still claim to stand for these things but empirically they don't actually execute those ideals. Reddit has lost to corporatism, selective application of rules, corruption, an indecent user base and "fair speech" as opposed to free speech. Voat is slightly better, but it's lost to lack of admin contact with the community, transparency to an extent, fair and just moderation, decent constructive user base. Now, while the user base on these websites are for the most part good people, it's the loud minority that are doing all the damage. Phuks isn't perfect in regards to freedom of speech, but that's a matter of infrastructure than principle. Since we don't have conversations that really push the boundaries of the server ToS, this isn't an issue, but it has the possibility to be if Phuks were to grow. I remember having multiple conversations with /u/Boukert about this while Phuks was just merely a sperm. Now that it's actually a working website with a community, I've seen those important ideals executed on this website. What was originally envisioned for Voat and Reddit, Phuks is now carrying on and EXPANDING upon. This isn't just a half-wit news aggregate website. This is evolving to be more. I've seen it, I know the future. This isn't skimping on features and stability, which was a massive issue with Voat. This is carrying on the torch, which on those platforms have been inhibited since mid-2016 at most. This is what Aaron Schwartz and Atko envisioned. Not a cesspit of corporatism and lies like Voat and Reddit.

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[–] chmod 3 points (+3|-0) Edited

Awesome write-up. I agree with everything. Justin/Putt killed Voat all by himself. It had potential to make a hard run on Reddit.

The problem, it seems, is that small communities like Phuks stay cool until they get too big. It will probably happen here as well but the site name will discourage advertising and investment. That's a good thing.

This site is, and always has been smooth as butter and always up.

And I STILL CAN'T DELETE MY VOAT ACCOUNT!

[–] [Deleted] 2 points (+2|-0)

I'm no longer sure if the majority of the Voat user base are good people. The general tone is whites are persecuted and we should kill all Jews, blacks and homosexuals.

[–] KillBill 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

That reminds me of something I saw a couple of days back on Voat. Everyone is a jew until proven otherwise: https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/2655894/13441640

What's ironic here is if I was going to pick someone as a government plant on Voat it would be the type of people who run "free" statistic websites that store posts and comments from Voat on their own server to make them easily searchable(and to sell).

Also the Owner of ProtectVoat down the bottom of that chain who wanted access to posters ip addresses and voting stats so he could make sure no one was a "shill". The same guy who spends most of his waking life on voat himself under various monikers.

[–] PhukPhukers -2 points (+3|-5)

LOL give me a fucking break! You people claim to have free speech but RAYCISM is hated and not allowed here. God forbid we talk about the differences in peoples. How dare someone use nasty words that hurt our brown feelings. You are about a dozen people sucking each other off. Enjoy the echo chamber cucks.

[–] keebyjeeby 10 points (+10|-0)

TBH, it is not about the differences in races, but about how constructively or stupidly you put that across. I don't have to read your post history to guess that yours is full of blind idiocy.

[–] chmod 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

I looked. He created the account two hours after the original post. That's his only comment.

[–] [Deleted] 7 points (+7|-0)

i'm sorry not being able to say slurs so we won't get our servers yanked hurt your feefees but there's plenty of borderline racist discussion. there just isn't a need to preach about the differences in peoples because everybody already knows them. its not new information to anybody.

[–] E-werd 3 points (+3|-0)
> implying there's any place that isn't an echo chamber to some extent

lol.

Like-minded people will always find each other and want to stick together. You're a fool.

Who says racism isn't allowed here? Have you not seen all the filthy cabbage people strewn about? Ever bear witness to a mighty Alpha broccolini curb stomping his degenerate foes into talcum powder? Ever even heard of the Better Broccoli Bureau?