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Radical free speech is important and a cornerstone of the US. Yeah, you've got some real shitheads on voat but also a lot of decent people that just don't hold the previously approved PC opinions. The internet was way better before it began to coalesce into megacorps like google, fb, and reddit. Instead of defending free speech they caved to advertisers. The issue w/ that is someone is always pissed off by something and the smallest groups shout the loudest. Now we've got a situation that's gotten out of hand and even regular conservatives are targeted. Voat is basically a concentration camp for free speech online. They've rounded up all the "wrongthinkers" and sent them to one place.

Before reddit and that Mountain Dew (the hitler did nothing wrong naming contest) troll happened /pol/ was libertarian more or less believe it or not. The PC left is Frankenstein and Voat's their monster. Assholes were fewer and farther between online before they all got shipped to the same place.

When you start inventing shit like "micro aggressions" and telling everyone their racist nonstop... I could provide a thousand other examples. The left has even managed to bring back segregation on college campuses only this time they're called "safe spaces" and black only dorms.

The Radical Left and the Far Right are every bit as bad as each other and more alike than they are different. They both have a need to be authoritarian in order to stay in power. (Horseshoe Theory)

Reddit, Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, etc. have no shortage of racists. They've just got the "right kind" in our weird double-standard culture.

Radical free speech is important and a cornerstone of the US. Yeah, you've got some real shitheads on voat but also a lot of decent people that just don't hold the previously approved PC opinions. The internet was way better before it began to coalesce into megacorps like google, fb, and reddit. Instead of defending free speech they caved to advertisers. The issue w/ that is someone is always pissed off by something and the smallest groups shout the loudest. Now we've got a situation that's gotten out of hand and even regular conservatives are targeted. Voat is basically a concentration camp for free speech online. They've rounded up all the "wrongthinkers" and sent them to one place. Before reddit and that Mountain Dew (the hitler did nothing wrong naming contest) troll happened /pol/ was libertarian more or less believe it or not. The PC left is Frankenstein and Voat's their monster. Assholes were fewer and farther between online before they all got shipped to the same place. When you start inventing shit like "micro aggressions" and telling everyone their racist nonstop... I could provide a thousand other examples. The left has even managed to bring back segregation on college campuses only this time they're called "safe spaces" and black only dorms. The Radical Left and the Far Right are every bit as bad as each other and more alike than they are different. They both have a need to be authoritarian in order to stay in power. (Horseshoe Theory) Reddit, Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, etc. have no shortage of racists. They've just got the "right kind" in our weird double-standard culture.

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[–] E-werd 7 points (+7|-0) Edited

Yeah, the key there being IRL. The internet is this magical place where people get to live out ideological fantasies. I think that explains tumblr, 4chan, and voat well enough. However, as we’ve been seeing in the past 5 years or so, these Internet personalities are bleeding into real life. Shits getting looney.

[–] PhuksNewfag 0 points (+0|-0)

Yeah, the key there being IRL. The internet is this magical place where people get to live out ideological fantasies.

It's not just the internet. In many EU countries you can get arrested for criticizing islam, even though if you were to say the same things about Christians it'd be perfectly fine. For example family guy and south park can make jokes about christians being pedophiles, but you can't make similar jokes at the expense of Islam.

If you ask people about these issues or gender issues etc. you'll find that the opinions in real life are heavily polarized just like on the internet, at least it's the case were I live. Besides if people get arrested for jokes in western democratic countries it has long since bleed out into real life.

[–] [Deleted] 0 points (+0|-0)

In many EU countries you can get arrested for criticizing islam

Can you name a few?

[–] PhuksNewfag 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

UK, Sweden, Germany and France.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/21/uk-man-sentenced-to-20-months-for-anti-muslim-posts-on-facebook/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/world/europe/germany-36-accused-of-hateful-postings-over-social-media.html

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/03/swedish-woman-who-made-online-jokes-about-islam-could-be-jailed-for-2-years/

https://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2018/01/daily-chart-8

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/20716

Zemmour is in trouble for a few sentences, such as the ones describing Muslims as those who “have to choose between Islam and France”, saying that “Jihad is a religious duty”, that “Muslims consider jihadists as good Muslims” and that “moderate Islam does not exist”. Ideas. Ideas are debatable in a European pluralist democracy proud of the free circulation of ideas, as well as goods and people. But these ideas are becoming forbidden in France.

Thus, Zemmour was sentenced of incitement to hatred and a fine of 5,000 euros

There might be better examples than the ones I just provided, I didn't want to spend too much time on it. I say that because in some of the examples I just provided people went further than just critique like asking people to be burned on a bonfire (but others were truly just critique or jokes) and in most they only faced the threat of jail but got a fine, like in the last example. However 5.000 euros is really not a small fine, especially not for merely stating that "moderate islam does not exist". And if they repeat their comments on islam, they'd eventually end up in jail.

This shouldn't happen in a democracy, especially not the double standards in which these laws are applied. As I said you can freely accuse all catholics of being pedophiles or other bad things, you can do so publicly in the street if you want.