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[–] InnocentBystander 0 points (+0|-0) Edited

Both are very important liberties that the self-proclaimed "liberals" do not support.

Liberalism - Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty and equality. Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support civil rights, democracy, secularism, gender and race equality, internationalism and the freedoms of speech, the press, religion and markets.

You should know what a word means before disparaging it.

[–] PhuksNewfag 0 points (+0|-0) Edited

You cannot have liberty and (enforced) equality, it's contradictory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_association

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty

You also completely ignored my point of words being misused. You said that the the founding fathers were "liberals", do you think they were "liberals" as in liberalism or liberals as in Libertarianism?

The American founding fathers were deeply influenced by liberalism. Not Libertarian-ism.
Open a history book. This is basic stuff that you should know if you're going to debate politics with the adults.

You also completely ignored my point

Because I can't find one. Your ranting is only semi-coherent, and does not seem related to the points I made.

[–] PhuksNewfag 0 points (+0|-0) Edited

They wanted a minimalist state, did they?

How do you achieve equality without using wealth redistribution and a giant state?

Your ranting is only semi-coherent, and does not seem related to the points I made.

I provided you statistical evidence that republicans are more supportive of freedom of speech than democrats. Instead you argue over a "TERM".

It doesn't matter if they call themselves liberals if they do not support freedom of speech as much as the opposition, does it?