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I can see how you might think that.
But I don't see it happening.
How's car-control gonna work in a nation that can't accept gun-control?

I live in their hat so: their influence + stupid long distances + red-necks who love their trucks to an extent that makes Texans say 'that's kinda weird' = I get to keep driving.

The "think of the children" argument only goes so far. If that was a real concern then cars would have been banned for personal use long ago. Public transit would be a much bigger thing. But it's not.
If someone wants to be safe all the time.. too bad. They can stay in their house.
A life without risk is a life wasted.

[–] smallpond 1 points (+1|-0)

I think it could work in a similar way to how the general population has accepted our near total loss of our personal data and privacy.

Maybe they'll let you press the pedals and turn the wheel for your childish amusement, but will add some "safety features" to take control in case you inadvertently do something that puts others' lives at risk. What sort of monster would object to that? And won't it be convenient to just let the car take over at the end of a hard day... I think the degree of total control that will give the big players will prove irresistible.

My concern is mostly with personal freedom: which I think is well worth the risk. You be the tech-loving optimist if you like: I'm expecting the worst.

I think it could work in a similar way to how the general population has accepted our near total loss of our personal data and privacy.

I don't think it compares. We wanted to give up our data. We embraced it, because it came with convenience and other perks.
People will not embrace the banning of manual driving.

but will add some "safety features" to take control in case you inadvertently

That is somewhat happening already. Abs, traction control, backup sensors, etc.
So far though, the market has dictated that any 'sport' vehicle needs to be able to turn a lot of that off.

My bike for example. It has abs brakes, which I can, and do turn off by hitting a couple buttons on the controls.
The reason for that is that abs breaks will help a rookie driver, but will limit a skilled driver.

There is a reason many want control. Because we either can, or perceive that we can, do it better than the computer.
I trust a computer chip for things like 'fly-by-wire'. But I do not trust it to not activate abs while I am leaning hard in a corner. Also, threshold breaking can outperform abs, and engine braking results in less wear and tear on the bike.

Point being: From a sport/enthusiast perspective, the manual control vehicle will never go away.
Eventually it may be curtailed to tracks, but not in my lifetime.

[–] smallpond 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

Almost nobody "wanted" to give up their data, but as a group our stupidity and lack of willpower meant we were powerless to resist it.

So far though, the market has dictated that any 'sport' vehicle needs to be able to turn a lot of that off.

In the early years you might have a button that says it's off, but of course it will still be sending all the data it is capable of collecting back to its manufacturer, and perhaps if someone with sufficient resources wants to murder you or use you and your penchant for dangerous driving to murder someone else, it will switch back on one last time. Of course the police/CIA/NSA will have override capabilities whether they tell the public about it or not.

There is a reason many want control.

Perhaps you misunderstood my meaning above. I meant government and corporate control. Not that I know much about who you are, but "we" will not have control.

You mentioned guns above: The primary function of guns is to kill/hurt people, so they're quite different from cars, whose primary function is to transport people. Even sporting enthusiasts are going to have a hard time arguing that removing the ability to kill members of the public takes all the fun out of driving.

Eventually it may be curtailed to tracks, but not in my lifetime.

Seems like you're coming around to my point of view: I hope you're right and it happens later rather than sooner.