I didn't say "let them in." I'm saying that their refusal to accept job and papers in Mexico shows that they're not interested in really working or being productive members of society. People will see this and go "huh, maybe we do need that wall" or whatever goes through their brain. Point is that this latest bit will only end badly for the left who is generally for letting them in.
Or they don't want to live or work in a country that will treat them as a lower class of people. The Mexican people do not like Central Americans for the most part. Plus the US offers high wages and isn't engulfed in cartel wars like Mexico is. If you were fleeing gang violence would you want to settle in a country that has the same problems almost as bad as your home country, or would you seek asylum in a different country that didn't have problems like that?
It takes something specific to create what might as well be termed a "golden horde." This isn't a matter of "dude got tired of the danger one day and a couple other people thought it was a good idea to leave too and suddenly 'we got us a convoy'".
I appreciate your approach but it's a grossly oversimplified explanation for what's happening.
For what it's worth, I've always been a proponent of closed borders except for a few vacationers and immigration through an education track with trade restricted to raw goods. I've held that view all my life and your not likely to change my mind on it though I'm willing to listen and consider. I'll also quickly admit that it is going to seriously bias my view and discussion with you.
Yeah, I see what you're saying, and I wasn't accusing you of lacking reasoning or saying you're advocating for unlimited immigration. I'm saying that anybody who has been paying attention for the last 30 years has already come to the conclusion that there are hundreds of millions who want to come to the US, and it has nothing to do with whatever current civil unrest is presently in country xyz; there will always be tons who want to come because there is so much more wealth in the US.
Allowing all these people in would be a flood and cause massive problems like we're seeing, so anybody who supports unlimited free immigration hasn't been paying attention all this time or has ideology that won't be swayed by these facts. I doubt this most recent episode will change any of those minds.
It might increase the urgency of the the topic in peoples' minds, however, and there are far, far more people who see the problem for what it is than far leftists who think the answer is to let in all of Central America. So maybe that will make it end badly for the left, but I kind of doubt it. Leftists propaganda has really accelerated and tried to make the unlimited immigration position mainstream, but I think they're far, far more extreme than most Americans. Of course it is really difficult to tell the true pulse.
Aye, agreed. I just can't see thousands of people willing to break the law as a positive addition to the country. What's very telling here, and no one seems to be mentioning this in any real discussion, is that Mexico didn't want to let them in and they're not rounding them up to ship them back. Kinda says lots about how future US-Mexico relations are going to go, I think.
I don't see how anybody possibly could want to let them in based on logical reasoning, so I'm not sure this would change anybody's mind.