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I personally detest the modern scientific thought-frame that its just "a clump of cells". That terminology seems Orwellian to me, and is a slippery slope to quickly dehumanize the subject.

I'm in favor of a choice to abort in special circumstances such as rape or mental defects, but then again that simply opens the door to more loosely defined slopes. Its like...where do we draw the line? Its either 100% yes or 100% no.

I personally detest the modern scientific thought-frame that its just "a clump of cells". That terminology seems Orwellian to me, and is a slippery slope to quickly dehumanize the subject. I'm in favor of a choice to abort in special circumstances such as rape or mental defects, but then again that simply opens the door to more loosely defined slopes. Its like...where do we draw the line? Its either 100% yes or 100% no.

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[–] Butler_crosley 8 points (+8|-0)

I'm for abortion and have seen the price the mother (and rest of the family) pays mentally afterwards. My wife and I were faced with the decision to end a pregnancy due to medical complications with the baby and we have both paid the price mentally for ending it early. The child would've suffered immensely duing her life even if she survived childhood and would've never been able to experience a great quality of life. Sadly the condition isn't able to be diagnosed until around 20 weeks and in most states 24 weeks is the cutoff for abortions. It was the hardest decision we have ever faced as a couple (and for me personally) and one we didn't make lightly. The majority of women who decide to abort don't make the decision lightly as a "oops I got pregnant and don't want to be" scenario like many pro-life people claim. It was the right decision for us but we still remember the child we didn't have.

I wouldn't wish the situation on anyone but I fully support the option to have one being legal.

[–] PhunkyPlatypus 6 points (+6|-0)

I'm 100% behind having the choice to abort. Even though I dunno if I could have my partner go through with it.

I've had several friends get abortions and it's a very difficult and traumatic experience. None of them ever got a second one. It's not like some have portrayed as a common and easy form of birth control.

Whatever reasons they had, it boiled down to not being able to provide for the child one way or another.

[–] xyzzy 5 points (+5|-0)

I'm conflicted, on one side I support it because it kills babies but on the other I dislike it because it gives women a choice.

[–] unruly 4 points (+4|-0)

Do you have any religious convictions?

[–] sidewalker_Principle 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

No, at least I don't think so. Being raised christian all I ever did was question the church from the top down : Steeple to People. It seemed fake, orchestrated.

That doesn't mean I've become an atheist or an agnostic. I do truly want to believe in a creator, I just fail to see the truth written by another human.

The case here with abortion is the grey area of "is" and "isn't". Either it is alive or it isn't. I don't like how people think they have a perfect formula for exactly when that clump of cells becomes living. I don't view the world that way. I think everything in the universe is living and a real part of an organic structure. I don't see a separation between me and the earth I stand upon.

My worldview is heavily influenced by some occult thinking, especially animism. I never take it 100% at face value, that is dumb, but I do resonate with some of the older esoteric teachings.

[–] ScorpioGlitch 3 points (+3|-0)

I always thought it was a thing I would face when I got to it and that everyone needed to have the right to decide that for themselves. Then came along New York, Virginia wanting to allow abortions right up to the moment of birth.

This isn't about the age old arguments. This is straight up infanticide. It's pure evil.

It should, except for few specific reasons, be completely banned. It's not about anything they sold it as so it doesn't get to exist as far as I'm concerned.

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBS2 2 points (+2|-0)

My stance is, early term okay, I don't agree with it so I won't participate with it. However I don't think its my right to make that choice for other people, however once the fetus can survive outside the womb(which is earlier than most seem to think) then absolutely not. Period, its no different than murder at that point.

[–] E-werd 2 points (+3|-1)

The phrase "a clump of cells" is designed to be a dehumanizing term. It's like how all racial slurs came into existence, if you remove their names they cease to be people and you no longer have an attachment.

I don't have much of an opinion I suppose, but my default is no. If you do nothing but continue to survive that embryo will become a human. That means something to me.

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