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I've noticed that some fairly good posts are downvoted into oblivion on voat without any reason... maybe the user is an "enemy"? I'm sure there're some SBBH types that all brigade together on their least favoured users. What strikes me as odd is there is no justification on -5 -7 posts... so five or seven people downvote and don't even leave a reason? weird and not cool. just attacking a user.

Wouldn't it be nice if people had to at the least justify downvote? It's an opportunity to learn how to better post if you really fucked up as OP... however most things shouldn't be downvoted though if there's effort from OP... amiright? thoughts?
I've noticed that some fairly good posts are downvoted into oblivion on voat without any reason... maybe the user is an "enemy"? I'm sure there're some SBBH types that all brigade together on their least favoured users. What strikes me as odd is there is no justification on -5 -7 posts... so five or seven people downvote and don't even leave a reason? weird and not cool. just attacking a user. Wouldn't it be nice if people had to at the least justify downvote? It's an opportunity to learn how to better post if you really fucked up as OP... however most things shouldn't be downvoted though if there's effort from OP... amiright? thoughts?

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[–] ScorpioGlitch 0 points (+0|-0)

I think you misspelled "I have a problem with authority, even distributed authority, that encourages and requires good, community-minded behavior."

Your arguments are classic rote-talking points from people who want to be able to say and do whatever they want to a community without consequence. Comment votes are not free speech, do not stifle free speech as they are only a metric.

As an experiment, I've run accounts on voat that went against this "hivemind" and as long as my behavior wasn't what reddit would call "twatwaffle", regardless of the comment content or message, I never entered the realm of CCP restrictions even when in support of their precious hot topics that they supposedly stand against. You're conflating bad behavior and "wrong think" and then using that conflation to inflate confirmation bias that hivemind and community are one and the same.

[–] smallpond -1 points (+0|-1)

I never entered the realm of CCP restrictions even when in support of their precious hot topics that they supposedly stand against. You're conflating bad behavior and "wrong think" and then using that conflation to inflate confirmation bias that hivemind and community are one and the same.

No, I'm not. Voat certainly has wrong-think, and you occasionally committing wrong-think while avoiding CCP restrictions by offsetting it with more acceptable content proves nothing. Some people want to talk about nothing except how great Hillary Clinton is - their speech is restricted on Voat because that is wrong-think there, and CCP restrictions enable the hivemind to shut them down.

I think you misspelled "I have a problem with authority, even distributed authority, that encourages and requires good, community-minded behavior."

Really? It seems more like you think 'good community-minded behavior' involves labeling and vindictively downvoting people based on past activity. I hope that's not really the case because it wouldn't give a good impression of your character or intellect.

Your poor excuse for this appears to be some bullshit about the "spirit of the community". So, as I just asked, explain yourself:

What do you think Phuks is devoted to? Nothing and everything, with a sprinkling of free speech ethic inherited from Voat is probably my answer. What do you think is the "spirit of this community"? Who do you want to shut down for being in opposition to that spirit?
[–] ScorpioGlitch 0 points (+0|-0)

by offsetting it with more acceptable content

[citation required]

Some people want to talk about nothing except how great Hillary Clinton is - their speech is restricted on Voat

[citation required]

It seems more like you think 'good community-minded behavior' involves labeling and vindictively downvoting people based on past activity

[citation required]

What do you think Phuks...

Completely irrelevant to the scope of the discussion (the difference between hivemind and community spirit). Hence, it was ignored. If you wish to address this afterwards, feel free to bring it up again.
[–] smallpond 0 points (+1|-1)

Well, I could give detailed responses to your diversionary nitpicking, but that would be a waste of my time. Look back to your first comment if you have forgotten what the scope of this discussion is:

For example, if you come in spouting racist things, you should expect to downvoted into oblivion. So it's likely that people who are downvoted like crazy are people who have done something to one or more users who don't or won't forget what kind of user they are.

The questions you can't or won't answer are quite relevant to the discussion. Are we excluding racists now? When you say "what kind of user they are" what kind of user are you talking about.

What do you think is the "spirit of this community"?

Who do you want to shut down for being in opposition to that spirit?
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