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Politically I'm liberal.

Personally I'm probably a conservative.

Politically I'm liberal. Personally I'm probably a conservative.

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[–] Mattvision 6 points (+6|-0)

I'm a Voluntaryist, politically and personally. It doesn't matter what it may be, I will always be against the use of coercion for any reason except for self-defense. It's wrong to force people to be part of something, or financially support something, or obey something, etc, against their free will. I find it inhuman and unnatural.

But, the vast majority of the planet seems to disagree with that so I'm fucked, politically and personally.

[–] TheRedArmy 5 points (+5|-0)

But, the vast majority of the planet seems to disagree with that so I'm fucked, politically and personally.

I feel you, brother-man. Just a little less extreme for me, but we're not so different in the end. :p

I'm also not sure what the difference is. My political opinions stem from my personal ones, so I see them as the same.
And like most people, while I choose the label that I am closest to resembling, I am actually a blend of different, and sometimes contradictory, ideas.

I think of myself as a pragmatic-liberal.
I value liberal ideas. However I accept that many of them rely on the false belief that mankind is naturally good, or at least neutral. So I place a strong emphasis on personal freedoms, rights, and the ability to do our own thing, even if contrary to accepted norms.

I'm also not sure what the difference is.

I mean if you support legalising drugs politically, do you do drugs personally? Things like that.

if you support legalising drugs politically

Yes.

do you do drugs personally?

Oh yeah.
I'm a fairly transparent person. I practice what I preach. I guess that's why I wasn't sure if I understood the question.

[–] jobes 6 points (+6|-0)

I used to be pretty far left, but over the last 5 or so years, a lot of the left just went full retard. I'm not just talking about SJWs online, but friends, co-workers and family members have moved so far left that it's pushed me right.

A lot of the right is also retarded, just in different ways. Both sides focus way too much on their own identity politics. I'll stick to a center-right for some things, center left for others.

For the authoritarian vs libertarian, I'd be closer to libertarian, but you need a bit of each. Full on free market can be fucked when you have monopolies like Google who can essentially erase someone from the internet.

[–] TheRedArmy 6 points (+6|-0)

I actually don't understand the distinction.

Besides, research shows most people vote their temperment. Conscientious people tend to be more conservative, and open people tend to be more liberal.

I'm a Libertarian politically, and I guess I am personally? I don't understand the difference.

[–] [Deleted] 4 points (+4|-0)

like it looks like everybody else here, i hold mostly libertarian ideals - though by no means entirely - both personally and politically. i tend to be extremely liberal in social issues/socially and extremely conservative in matters of state/self. mostly, though, i think anybody who ties themselves down to a single ideology is deluding themself. every ideology embraces an impossible ideal.

[–] TheRedArmy 5 points (+5|-0)

mostly, though, i think anybody who ties themselves down to a single ideology is deluding themself. every ideology embraces an impossible ideal.

I agree. The primary issue is that if the ideology becomes the most important thing, then you're not actually paying attention to the actual reality around you. All that matters is this thing that's taken possession of you, it holds you and limits your openness and thoughtfulness. It prevents you from actually thinking critically about the world around you, and those that simply hold different views aren't just other individuals - they become the enemy.

Some examples of ideologies:

  • All women are oppressed because of the patriarchy.
  • The only reason people want to put any limit on any firearm individuals may possess, ever, is for the eventual confiscation of all firearms.
  • If you just abolished government entirely and left everything up to the free market, the world would be perfect.
  • Corporations and the greedy rich are the cause of poverty - if we can get their wealth spread around some, everyone will be better off.

It's worth noting that, to different extents, all of these are true, somewhat, but also somewhat false. All of these kinds of ideologies tend to have some core idea, way down underneath all the exterior crap, that probably has at least some truth to it. But it becomes corrupted and perverse, and quickly you have a single answer for everything.

Why are women oppressed? The Patriarchy. Why is there a rape culture? The Patriarchy. Why do women earn less than men (they don't, but facts also aren't allowed to get in the way of an ideology) - The Patriarchy. It becomes too simple. Not all of life's woes are caused by any singular thing. And that's only counting the actual woes that exist. Fictional ones caused by bad research by individuals with agendas (or simply poor scientists) quickly cause misinformation and further drive the ideology, even when it's empirically false, like the alleged wage gap or the "2 in 5 women will be raped in college" statistic.

These are obviously and blatantly false when you take an objective look at what we actually know, but the numbers continue to be repeated and used regardless. And should anyone have the gall to question these ideas, that maybe there's something else going on, maybe we don't actually know as much as we think we know? You're turned on by the pack of wolves that are those possessed by the ideology to the point where they can't actually objectively consider any other viewpoint.

It's extremely dangerous. And easy as hell to fall into. One has to guard themselves against it.

[–] KFCNyanCat 0 points (+0|-0)

Politically I'm a social libertarian. Personally, I'm an altruistic hedonist.