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It is said America's largest export is its culture. Could Brexit be a reflection of the independence that is so deep rooted in American culture?

The UK is a major player in the EU and had a hand in its creation. Why the sudden desire for independence from its own creation especially when it never fully committed to begin with? Has the notion of commonwealth been overturned or was it just something to keep the colonies in line?

It is said America's largest export is its culture. Could Brexit be a reflection of the independence that is so deep rooted in American culture? The UK is a major player in the EU and had a hand in its creation. Why the sudden desire for independence from its own creation especially when it never fully committed to begin with? Has the notion of commonwealth been overturned or was it just something to keep the colonies in line?

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[–] Boukert 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

Altough UK tends to follow the US closely on a lot of cultural influences, politics is a total different ballgame. UK politics is still mainly about real issues, has proper debates and is a multi-party system. Nowhere in the EU the politics are compatible to the US anyway. I think the whole brexit idea was just oldfashioned nostalgia, ignorance, fee fees and misplaced frustrations. The UK isn't a worldpower and doesn't "rule the waves" anymore which is hard to handle for mainly the older generation (the ones massively voting "leave") and the lower educated "they took muhh jawb".

Mind you the brexit policy cuts straight trough party lines (except UKip) and devided the population like nothing before. The refugee part is one of the biggest misconceptions, take Calais camps for example. Those are directly caused by UK laws on asylum and family ties in UK, not the EU's fault.

Thing that flabbergasts me the most is; this is all happening during one of the greatest economic boosts the EU has ever known.

Some funny hypocrasy:

  • a lot of rural areas voted "leave" massively, then when the results came out they freaked out as their agricultural sectors where getting massive EU subsidies.

  • A lot of UK elderly move to southern Spain when they retire, that area got a lot of "leave" votes. The moment the vote came out shit started hitting the fan there and now they are in all kinds of uncertainty about healthcare, pensions, visas etc etc.

  • The Scots got royaly fucked having their referendum a year earlier. (Scotland is about 68% pro EU)

[–] PMYA 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

50+ voted leave, everyone else voted remain.

The Scottish may actually have a vote on the Great Repeal Bill, which is the piece of legislation that would make EU laws into UK laws when we leave. If that happens, there is a possibility they could block us from leaving, or at the very least postpone it. I imagine Scotland will need to be given a seat at the negotiating table, which means we will have Scotland and NI both wanting different things from the deal.

I think it is entirely possible that we will end up in a situation 2 years from now where the UK government is forced to decide between leaving without a deal or remaining in the EU. The reasons for this being:

  • Scotland and NI making it impossible for us to agree on anything to propose to the EU
  • The UK government - if it is Conservative - overplaying their hand to ease UK public opinion and getting swatted down by the EU again and again.
  • The EU knowing full well that they can control the pace of these negotiations and slowing talks down to get us to reconsider leaving when the time comes.