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If you insist they give up their culture immediately you will be seen as trying to take away their culture. Just like how gun rights advocates perceive attacks on gun culture.

Solidarity is a normal reaction to real or perceived hostility. In history the social pressure to assimilate resulted in immigrant collectivism in order to support each other; Chinatowns, little Italy and a myriad other ethnic enclaves formed partly because of this pressure.

If you insist they give up their culture immediately you will be seen as trying to take away their culture. Just like how gun rights advocates perceive attacks on gun culture. Solidarity is a normal reaction to real or perceived hostility. In history the social pressure to assimilate resulted in immigrant collectivism in order to support each other; Chinatowns, little Italy and a myriad other [ethnic enclaves](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_enclave) formed partly because of this pressure.

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[–] Violentlight 3 points (+3|-0)

Immigrants that go through the proper process of getting into a country are a totally different story. The country makes sure they will benefit society. The immigrants bring something to the table to benefit the society. They want to join the society, and have something to gain in the success of that society. They do not have plans to simply leech off of the host society.

What we are currently dealing with, is unrestricted immigration. They are just flooding in without any regard to their benefit to the society, or even their motives for coming into the country. This is a slap in the face to the real immigrants that spend so much time and money trying to get in through the system. They see these other immigrants just walking across the border without having to jump through the same hoops.

I don't think many people have an issue with proper immigration. But the current immigration problem is something separate. There is no regard for the host society.

Immigrants that want to join a society are expected to assimilate, because they want to join the society. If they like it so much, assimilate. If you don't like it, stay out. Its very simple. Its not racist. Its not what-the-fuck-ever-phobic. They made the decision to join the society. They have an obligation to assimilate to that society. Otherwise, stay in your current society, if you love it so much.

[–] phoxy [OP] 0 points (+1|-1)

What we are currently dealing with, is unrestricted immigration.

Not true. Not even slightly true. But don't take my word for it.

How America's refugee process works
How Germany's refugee process works
How UK's refugee process works
How Canada's refugee process works

[–] Violentlight 3 points (+3|-0) Edited

Well thats just it. If they would use these laws, then I'm okay. But they are not. Justin Trudeau has decided to ignore them. We have people crossing the border from the US every day now. Once they cross, we just set them up. He is rushing the Syrian refugees as well.

You can quote the laws and procedures all day. But my own government has decided its okay to ignore their own laws. They are not even trying to hide it. Its being praised in our news. They are hailing it like some kind of great thing that our government is doing.

My government is ignoring the law. Then they are creating new laws to silence the people who are speaking out against their actions.

And that right there boils it down to why there is a growing number of people getting really pissed off.

EDIT: Plus, you cannot be serious thinking Germany is actually vetting anyone coming into their country right now. They just have their borders open.

[–] phoxy [OP] 0 points (+1|-1) Edited

If they would use these laws, then I'm okay. But they are not. Justin Trudeau has decided to ignore them. We have people crossing the border from the US every day now. Once they cross, we just set them up. He is rushing the Syrian refugees as well.

But what is your evidence for this? Reports in the news? There are also news reports detailing the procedure that refugees must go through after being referred from UN refugee camps. Edit to add: news is not good evidence because it is biased toward sensationalism and extraordinary occurrences.

What evidence do you have for masses crossing from the US? In order to "set them up" these US illegals would have to go through the screening process to be approved for assistance, and they would be discovered to be illegal.