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The number of people I see calling for Nazi-style restriction of movement, working, and even living based on vaccination status is utterly terrifying. The people who thought that a bakery should be forced to make a cake for a customer now support companies only hiring or serving vaccinated people (good for them! Happy!) while decrying companies who hire or serve only unvaccinated people (they're evil! Sad!) technically exercising the same freedom as evil.

The US is not the entirety of the world, vaccinated people still catch and spread the virus at the same rates even if they have no symptoms, not quite 50% of the entire world population has been vaccinated. The crowd of "if wearing a mask saves just one life" has turned into a group of fascist pieces of filth.

One. Freaking. Year.
The number of people I see calling for Nazi-style restriction of movement, working, and even living based on vaccination status is utterly terrifying. The people who thought that a bakery should be forced to make a cake for a customer now support companies only hiring or serving vaccinated people (good for them! Happy!) while decrying companies who hire or serve only unvaccinated people (they're evil! Sad!) technically exercising the same freedom as evil. The US is not the entirety of the world, vaccinated people still catch and spread the virus at the same rates even if they have no symptoms, not quite 50% of the entire world population has been vaccinated. The crowd of "if wearing a mask saves just one life" has turned into a group of fascist pieces of filth. One. Freaking. Year.

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[–] jobes 5 points (+5|-0)

I'd describe it more as communist than facist, especially because of the nonstop government intervention into free housing (no evictions), inflating the economy with gibs, working to make massive amounts of government-funded and controlled jobs (infrastructure plan), etc.
[–] ScorpioGlitch [OP] 3 points (+3|-0)

They prefer to be called "communists" as opposed to "fascists." Calling them "communist" not only warms their hearts but also fires up a knee-jerk reflex of "you don't know what communism is". Calling them "fascists" puts them on the level of stupidity as the people they hate and abhor and that's pure terror to them.
[–] Butler_crosley 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

vaccinated people still catch and spread the virus at the same rates even if they have no symptoms

Do you have actual research that supports this claim? All the research I've seen shows that isn't true. Vaccinated people who have a breakthrough have a significantly lower viral load thus are less likely to transmit the virus at the same rate as an unvaccinated person with Covid.

The first vaccines weren't intended to eradicate the virus, they were designed to slow down the spread and reduce the severeness of infections. Anyone expecting a new type of vaccine (that has taken 30+ years to develop due to technological restraints) was going to offer 100% inoculation rates on a new virus, doesn't understand viruses. Viruses are notorious for their ability to mutate rapidly.

Edited to change a punctuation mark
[–] ScorpioGlitch [OP] 0 points (+0|-0)

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people who get infected carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01986-w

Individuals infected with Delta also had viral loads up to 1,260 times higher than those in people infected with the original strain.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-07/23/c_1310078578.htm

Israel says Pfizer vaccine effectiveness down to 39 pct amid spread of Delta variant

Let's not forget about lambda...

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/delta-infections-among-vaccinated-likely-contagious-lambda-variant-shows-vaccine-2021-08-02/

Delta infections among vaccinated likely contagious; Lambda variant shows vaccine resistance in lab
[–] Butler_crosley 2 points (+2|-0)

This is the research that caught my attention: Findings from a UK study showing vaccines are helping

Reading your sources, I saw this:

They note that in COVID-19 survivors, the immune system's antibodies evolve during the first year, becoming more potent and better able to resist new variants.

Now if they were to combine the mRNA vaccine with an inactivated virus vaccine, would that allow the immune system to evolve and give better resistance to the variants as they occur?

Your sources actually reinforced my statement about the current vaccines reducing the severity for breakthrough cases.

[–] ScorpioGlitch [OP] 0 points (+0|-0)

This phrase "breakthrough cases" needs to go away. No anti-viral vaccine stops infection. It's not like an antibiotic. Christ, that's high school biology right there.

And I never disagreed that vaccines prevent symptoms from becoming deadly. In fact, I've maintained all along that the only thing vaccines do is stop you from dying. That means that if you continue to run around like it's not there, you're going to catch it. Period. Full stop. There will be a period of time where you are spreading it but you likely won't know it. There's a word for that: super-spreader.

Further, in one of those sources:

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/delta-infections-among-vaccinated-likely-contagious-lambda-variant-shows-vaccine-2021-08-02/

The Lambda variant of the coronavirus, first identified in Peru and now spreading in South America, is highly infectious and more resistant to vaccines than the original version of the virus the emerged from Wuhan, China, Japanese researchers have found.

In laboratory experiments, they found that three mutations in Lambda's spike protein, known as RSYLTPGD246-253N, 260 L452Q and F490S, help it resist neutralization by vaccine-induced antibodies. Two additional mutations, T76I and L452Q, help make Lambda highly infectious, they found. In a paper posted on Wednesday on bioRxiv ahead of peer review, the researchers warn that with Lambda being labeled a "Variant of Interest" by the World Health Organization, rather than a "Variant of Concern," people might not realize it is a serious ongoing threat.

It's vaccine resistant. Delta is tearing though all kinds of places and lambda is about to make massive waves and this lambda variant is going to mutate and become even more resistant, possibly more deadly with a shorter incubation period (lambda's incubation period is already the shortest yet).

[–] [Deleted] 1 points (+2|-1)

LOLS, nazis, communists.

You guys crack me up.
[–] jobes 3 points (+3|-0)

Well if this is how free market capitalism is supposed to work, then I went to the wrong econ classes.
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