The roots of this run really deep, back to the invention of Agriculture, civilization, and more
The problem of large scale long term distribution of resources is a problem that civilization tries to solve. Notice the word "try" this has been the major problem since the invention of agriculture.
Hunter gatherers did not have this problem.
If you are clever enough to farm enough so your family is provided for the winter, those who are not as clever as you or who are not as industrious as you might show up in the middle of winter, etc. looking for and maybe even demanding their handout.
Organizing things so that people are not continuously raiding each other for resources is a function of civilization.
However, things are not always organized fairly, and so politics happens, legal systems evolve. and we get elites and nobility and other weird things. We get things like excessive privilege based on power and discussions of the various kind of privileges that people enjoy based on their social status (as talked about by the Social Justice Movement).
and we get things like "the rich" when people try to game the system for their own benefit. And then you get people who do not think this is fair.
it is a conflict between the old hunter-gather sense of ethics and the agricultural organizational ethics, writ large and mutated to a grand scale.
and if we do not want to go back the Hunter Gather Culture we will need some sort of system.
We have this situation where there WERE mega villages of hunter gatherers, with everyone one being pretty equal, and the mega-villages fell apart. Ultimately It was not sustainable. It could not "scale" properly. To get ahead you need to be able to organize and plan, and not everyone is going to agree.
So what is the solution if you do not have a set of laws?
And of course, some people merely want to substitute one form of privilege or power for another. What was once yours is now theirs, or what was once theirs in now yours, etc. Even if under the guise of one label or another (Social Justice, MAGA, or whatever)
(One major complaint of many trump supporters is that the system is unfair, and everyone else is getting a piece of the pie while they are not, so why not burn the place down?)
And since I happen to sort of like civilization, I guess that puts me on the side of people who like to be rich.
Making a proper system is a problem because of the two impulses.
We even see this problem in things like the house guest who won't leave, and the large version of this with illegal immigrants etc.
The roots of this run really deep, back to the invention of Agriculture, civilization, and more
The problem of large scale long term distribution of resources is a problem that civilization tries to solve. Notice the word "try" this has been the major problem since the invention of agriculture.
Hunter gatherers did not have this problem.
If you are clever enough to farm enough so your family is provided for the winter, those who are not as clever as you or who are not as industrious as you might show up in the middle of winter, etc. looking for and maybe even demanding their handout.
Organizing things so that people are not continuously raiding each other for resources is a function of civilization.
However, things are not always organized fairly, and so politics happens, legal systems evolve. and we get elites and nobility and other weird things. We get things like excessive privilege based on power and discussions of the various kind of privileges that people enjoy based on their social status (as talked about by the Social Justice Movement).
and we get things like "the rich" when people try to game the system for their own benefit. And then you get people who do not think this is fair.
it is a conflict between the old hunter-gather sense of ethics and the agricultural organizational ethics, writ large and mutated to a grand scale.
and if we do not want to go back the Hunter Gather Culture we will need some sort of system.
*We have this situation where there WERE mega villages of hunter gatherers, with everyone one being pretty equal, and the mega-villages fell apart. Ultimately It was not sustainable. It could not "scale" properly. To get ahead you need to be able to organize and plan, and not everyone is going to agree.*
for more on this. see this fine article https://io9.gizmodo.com/how-farming-almost-destroyed-human-civilization-1659734601
So what is the solution if you do not have a set of laws?
And of course, some people merely want to substitute one form of privilege or power for another. What was once yours is now theirs, or what was once theirs in now yours, etc. Even if under the guise of one label or another (Social Justice, MAGA, or whatever)
(One major complaint of many trump supporters is that the system is unfair, and everyone else is getting a piece of the pie while they are not, so why not burn the place down?)
And since I happen to sort of like civilization, I guess that puts me on the side of people who like to be rich.
Making a proper system is a problem because of the two impulses.
We even see this problem in things like the house guest who won't leave, and the large version of this with illegal immigrants etc.
The roots of this run really deep, back to the invention of Agriculture, civilization, and more
The problem of large scale long term distribution of resources is a problem that civilization tries to solve. Notice the word "try" this has been the major problem since the invention of agriculture.
Hunter gatherers did not have this problem.
If you are clever enough to farm enough so your family is provided for the winter, those who are not as clever as you or who are not as industrious as you might show up in the middle of winter, etc. looking for and maybe even demanding their handout.
Organizing things so that people are not continuously raiding each other for resources is a function of civilization.
However, things are not always organized fairly, and so politics happens, legal systems evolve. and we get elites and nobility and other weird things. We get things like excessive privilege based on power and discussions of the various kind of privileges that people enjoy based on their social status (as talked about by the Social Justice Movement).
and we get things like "the rich" when people try to game the system for their own benefit. And then you get people who do not think this is fair.
it is a conflict between the old hunter-gather sense of ethics and the agricultural organizational ethics, writ large and mutated to a grand scale.
and if we do not want to go back the Hunter Gather Culture we will need some sort of system.
We have this situation where there WERE mega villages of hunter gatherers, with everyone one being pretty equal, and the mega-villages fell apart. Ultimately It was not sustainable. It could not "scale" properly. To get ahead you need to be able to organize and plan, and not everyone is going to agree.
for more on this. see this fine article https://io9.gizmodo.com/how-farming-almost-destroyed-human-civilization-1659734601
So what is the solution if you do not have a set of laws?
And of course, some people merely want to substitute one form of privilege or power for another. What was once yours is now theirs, or what was once theirs in now yours, etc. Even if under the guise of one label or another (Social Justice, MAGA, or whatever)
(One major complaint of many trump supporters is that the system is unfair, and everyone else is getting a piece of the pie while they are not, so why not burn the place down?)
And since I happen to sort of like civilization, I guess that puts me on the side of people who like to be rich.
Making a proper system is a problem because of the two impulses.
We even see this problem in things like the house guest who won't leave, and the large version of this with illegal immigrants etc.