what is second hand is that you think that means moderna is incompetent. you've taken the word of people who don't know what they are talking about and don't know the company and chosen to believe that. its just like with the election. you've chosen the media you consume and that media is pumping you up to fear and mistrust legitimate medical opinions.
I'm having a bit of trouble wrapping my head around this one. I haven't linked any specific sources, I just said some easily digestable facts and you are telling me 'ignore these facts your media sucks shut up retard'. That's kind of exactly the point I wanted to make originally - we can't even have a basic discussion because of people like you. You're in the 'I dont care this company has a 0% success rate, take the shot you conspiracy theorist' camp. I'll happily wait.
its not that i dont care they have a 0% success rate, its that you have been misinformed about the significance of that. its not that they are incompetent or that their treatments aren't effective, its that passing a new treatment through the FDA is very nearly impossible. but yes, go ahead and bold face lie to me and tell me that your easily digestible 'facts' aren't from media you have consumed.
What is second hand about Moderna never once succeeding in bringing any product to market and failing every clinical trial for mRNA products? I'm a nut for looking at that?