All the things they beg to be free takes someone's time to produce.
It's only fair that if these people have to give their time for free, people wanting free stuff should start by refusing pay for their time.
But they won't because we all know it's all about "give me free" anyway.
If you don't want to discuss healthcare, don't bring it up in your post, make retarded claims and get pissy when someone disagrees. There are places better suited to posting political stuff and then refusing to engage properly when someone brings up relevant information. Clearly my time is being wasted.
So I was right, you aren't good at this. All you want to do is whine about how healthcare makes the whole claim wrong. That's called the fallacy of division.
I said plainly and clearly what the topic is and why the minutia is a problem. But you gotta have minutia!
The topic is about the entitlement people feel and how they don't want to actually do anything. You talking about just "muh healthcare" and then getting mad when no one will engage you is like walking into a room where people are talking about oranges and then getting pissy when no one will talk about apples with you.
This is why you don't get bogged down in minutia. All it does is serve to destroy conversation and confuse the issue and minutia has been nothing but a birdcall to legitimate attempts at making progress since the 60s and I don't play that game.
So, yeah, you're wasting your own time.
You are referring to a collection of countries that have socialized healthcare. They all also happen to have enormous social welfare programs the combination of which 1. isn't socialized anything and 2. creates taxes around 50% and 3. I'm talking about the whole thing because people in the US who promote "<thing> is a human right" never talk about just healthcare or just food or just housing. While the subjects are each individual, the issue at hand is the "everything is a human right so everything should be free" when it used to be "just healthcare" and the list of "give me free things" has been added to every year.
Stop focusing on the minutia of healthcare (that's what you're kind of failing at here). The minutia is a distraction. The economy of the "everything is a human right" is the issue and it is unsustainable.