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Something I've begun to think about recently is how a lot of people seem to have a romantic idea of the world ending. They believe some global doomsday epidemic will come about, civilisation will break down, and it will be each man for himself.

Now, you can't rule out anything happening. There's a small possibility that it could happen, sure. But when you listen to some of these predictions, they will claim that another 2008 recession will be the reason for the end or that tomorrow the sun will rise and it'll be the end. Things that are relatively small become reasons for an epidemic. I just don't believe that to be the case.

These people have a dreamy idea that they will be truly free and in touch with nature. They will hunt, fish, axe their own trees, construct their own fort. I too have thoughts about alternative scenarios, but again, there are things that aren't likely to happen in reality. That includes living like the Amish.

Disasters do happen, and it's important to be prepared. But disasters don't happen in a wide area affecting a massive chunk of a nations population. It's confined to areas and it impacts a certain number of the population. How you'll survive after a disaster strikes is a good thing to ponder and act upon. But it's not for long. You leave and the place gets rebuilt in a few years time.

Even if a large-scale disaster were to hypothetically happen, why do we have to suddenly live among nature? There's nothing stopping us from living like they did merely 100 years ago. We have the knowledge of industrialisation, carpentry, metal work. While you would never return the high standard of living that we had before, you can definitely rebuild and get back onto the path of development.

As I write this, I've begun to wonder about the religious relation to this. Could there be a bit of a religious attachment to this romanticism of the end? To me, it feels like it comes from the same types of people who believe that Jesus will come back and usher in a new age.

I have no problem with the people who believe this. I just think it gets a bit much at times and can get a bit silly. But it's important to be prepared, regardless of the scale of any disaster.

Something I've begun to think about recently is how a lot of people seem to have a romantic idea of the world ending. They believe some global doomsday epidemic will come about, civilisation will break down, and it will be each man for himself. Now, you can't rule out anything happening. There's a small possibility that it could happen, sure. But when you listen to some of these predictions, they will claim that another 2008 recession will be the reason for the end or that tomorrow the sun will rise and it'll be the end. Things that are relatively small become reasons for an epidemic. I just don't believe that to be the case. These people have a dreamy idea that they will be truly free and in touch with nature. They will hunt, fish, axe their own trees, construct their own fort. I too have thoughts about alternative scenarios, but again, there are things that aren't likely to happen in reality. That includes living like the Amish. Disasters do happen, and it's important to be prepared. But disasters don't happen in a wide area affecting a massive chunk of a nations population. It's confined to areas and it impacts a certain number of the population. How you'll survive after a disaster strikes is a good thing to ponder and act upon. But it's not for long. You leave and the place gets rebuilt in a few years time. Even if a large-scale disaster were to hypothetically happen, why do we have to suddenly live among nature? There's nothing stopping us from living like they did merely 100 years ago. We have the knowledge of industrialisation, carpentry, metal work. While you would never return the high standard of living that we had before, you can definitely rebuild and get back onto the path of development. As I write this, I've begun to wonder about the religious relation to this. Could there be a bit of a religious attachment to this romanticism of the end? To me, it feels like it comes from the same types of people who believe that Jesus will come back and usher in a new age. I have no problem with the people who believe this. I just think it gets a bit much at times and can get a bit silly. But it's important to be prepared, regardless of the scale of any disaster.

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[–] MirrorMan 4 points (+4|-0)

Probably some normal psychology at work. If you look at history wars were not constant affairs. Whenever war broke out it was "the war to end all wars"-for that generation. Those who fought in that war might live to see the next one, but they would be far too old to fight. So part of the end times fixation may be the biological clock saying we are overdue for a war.

Looks like you are referring to prepper types, but there is a much larger segment of the population fascinated by the end of the world. Young people with no investment or attachment to the world they are inheriting find the idea of burning everything down attractive. Better to make any changes now before they do have something to protect or lose.

With higher government intervention and welfare this segment of the population can age well out of being young and grow in size. These are the opposite of preppers and they will 100% be behind any cataclysmic cultural events. These are the people who live paycheck to paycheck with nothing to lose because of their own short sighted mindset. Preppers are just enacting a natural defense response against the reality of dangerous disenfranchised idiot "victims." Sure the prepper has some flavor of the times of culture reason in their mind, like zombies or religion, but the true root is deep distrust in mankind.

[–] Justintoxicated 4 points (+4|-0)

I would opine that a lot of it has to with your station in life/how you perceive the current world around you. If you station in life is a boring job/place you hate/are numb to, then a massive sweeping change to drastically change the game may seem quite welcomed if you believe that under the new rules you will be ahead. Some people don't actually hate their lives but are weary and fearful of change, often perceived social/political changes and crave a time when challenges are more rudimentary such as finding food and shelter.

I've thought about what you've said in a more general context before. Complacency and relativity.

It's been generations since we've had anything bad directly happen to us. It's been stable since WW2. With the exception of a few wars overseas, nobody is truly a victim. But we've never seen a large-scale societal transformation happen.

People don't understand the position where we've come from. They're bored with the status quo. Our danger comes from within in that case. The willingness to experiment with more radical ideologies while thinking they can maintain a high standard of living if shit hits the fan. Terrifying.

[–] PhunkyPlatypus 3 points (+3|-0)

This is the main reason that people who are obsessed with the zombie apocalypse always bothered me. It's one thing to prepare, but so many actively want to be able to put their plans into action.

It's this whole Rambo mindset in which everyone is convinced that they won't become part of the 99% casualties. Perhaps its just the justification for murder that they seek.

I dunno, and obviously this isn't applicable to everyone. But with the rise of extremists calling for all out civil war in the states. It's a troubling philosophy to follow.

But I digress from your original point. There's a short list of full apocalyptic disasters that would ruin the world, an asteroid strike, or full nuclear armageddon would do it. Aliens or any space related event would kill us all.

I think a true world altering disaster that's most likely is a massive solar flair that sends us back to 1935 technologicalluly.

[–] GuyIDisagreeWith 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

Abandonment of present day stresses & Hollywood's urge to ape the last big profit. Once it was romance novels, then it was Space Opera, and now it's The End Of The World As We Know It. Once it was even beautiful, romantic, protracted, agonizing deaths. The next cash cow will be along eventually.

I think Willoughby Kipling put it best when he said, "How you feel about the end of the world as we know it depends on how you feel about the world as we know it. Personally I think it's highly overrated."

[–] MirrorMan 1 points (+1|-0)

That's why investment is so important. Personally I don't care about the end of the world, but I have a younger sister. I would do anything to secure the existence of the world so she can experience growing up and becoming independent. Children, family, and community are vital. The world is truly bigger than you, but if your world isn't then it is no wonder you are attracted to its end. You never fully understood what it was that you wished destroyed in the first place. It deeply bothers me that there are world leaders without children.

Here's the question: Is the world overrated, or is the end of the world overrated?

[–] MirrorMan 0 points (+0|-0)

The world is nothing but potential. How do you rate something like that? You could assess it by noon and new changes would have emerged by dinner time. The end of the world isn't always dramatic and more akin to what is happening to the church in the US. Protracted diminishing and wasting away. Sudden change is hard to say, but I'm sticking with my guns that it is the idiots that carry out sudden change so it almost always is a negative. Worked for the French because their ruling class was obsolete and useless many generations running. Didn't work for the Soviet Union because the middle class actually were vital and useful.