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I have been thinking about community growth and how the voat fracture has split several communities apart.

Compared to Reddit the userbase at voat was small. To grow a non political sub on voat took work and dedication. It really takes one to two very active and motivated mods to get a sub going and stay going. It’s extremely easy to get burnt out. Over the years the majority of communities on voat have disbanded and have tried to replicate their subs on several platforms. Non have really matched the spark that was voat in its prime (IMO).

I’m curious about how the future of poal and phuks relationship will work and how that relationship will effect community growth.

Phuks seems content on small growth with little to no advertising on other sites were Poal seems the opposite, very eager to gain users and growth. Voat got its growth from Reddit fucking up and Poal was created because Voat is fucking up. Seems fucking up is the growth strategy here.

There’s a lot of cross posts on all three sites. Does this hinder community growth?

Just running “whatever” thoughts I had this morning.

Happy Friday Phukers.

I have been thinking about community growth and how the voat fracture has split several communities apart. Compared to Reddit the userbase at voat was small. To grow a non political sub on voat took work and dedication. It really takes one to two very active and motivated mods to get a sub going and stay going. It’s extremely easy to get burnt out. Over the years the majority of communities on voat have disbanded and have tried to replicate their subs on several platforms. Non have really matched the spark that was voat in its prime (IMO). I’m curious about how the future of poal and phuks relationship will work and how that relationship will effect community growth. Phuks seems content on small growth with little to no advertising on other sites were Poal seems the opposite, very eager to gain users and growth. Voat got its growth from Reddit fucking up and Poal was created because Voat is fucking up. Seems fucking up is the growth strategy here. There’s a lot of cross posts on all three sites. Does this hinder community growth? Just running “whatever” thoughts I had this morning. Happy Friday Phukers.

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[–] ScorpioGlitch 5 points (+5|-0)

The social content aggregator site as we see now is old and tried and maybe even tired. Unless there's a novel twist to it, you're only going to grow from the castouts and disillusioned from other sites (maybe even quirky?).

Fark, then Digg, then Reddit. It's like MySpace then Facebook and now no one can get a foot in because it's all been done before. So trying to grow clones is a lot of difficult work. And the only thing that keeps previous sites going is niche subs where a community has organically grown. For example, you are highly likely to find a sub for your local area on reddit but you'll be hard pressed to find one on any of the clones. This creates stickiness.

You want to grow a site? Create stickiness in a way that practically demands site/brand loyalty.

[–] Hitchens [OP] 3 points (+3|-0)

You want to grow a site? Create stickiness in a way that practically demands site/brand loyalty.

I like your thoughts here.

I felt voat had that stickiness for awhile and not just the stickiness of ‘free speech’

[–] ScorpioGlitch 2 points (+2|-0)

Not my thinking, just plain, simple marketing and business thinking.

Voat had site community cohesiveness but not sub cohesiveness. As a result, people contrary to the goals of the voat community were able to slip in between the cracks, take over subs, behave in a manner contrary to stated site intents. That destroys stickiness. If you want stickiness, you'll have to also moderate trouble-makers.

[–] Hitchens [OP] 3 points (+3|-0) Edited

Voat had site community cohesiveness but not sub cohesiveness

Have time to expand on this?

Are you speaking of general subs and systems subs?

I liked that non general subs could make up their own sub guidelines. One of the reasons I left voat was that little subs with clear rules were being trolled because they didn’t allow all free speech. I thought small subs like the craft subs should be able to inforce rules that keep the topics to crafting.