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I have been thinking about community growth and how the voat fracture has split several communities apart.

Compared to Reddit the userbase at voat was small. To grow a non political sub on voat took work and dedication. It really takes one to two very active and motivated mods to get a sub going and stay going. It’s extremely easy to get burnt out. Over the years the majority of communities on voat have disbanded and have tried to replicate their subs on several platforms. Non have really matched the spark that was voat in its prime (IMO).

I’m curious about how the future of poal and phuks relationship will work and how that relationship will effect community growth.

Phuks seems content on small growth with little to no advertising on other sites were Poal seems the opposite, very eager to gain users and growth. Voat got its growth from Reddit fucking up and Poal was created because Voat is fucking up. Seems fucking up is the growth strategy here.

There’s a lot of cross posts on all three sites. Does this hinder community growth?

Just running “whatever” thoughts I had this morning.

Happy Friday Phukers.

I have been thinking about community growth and how the voat fracture has split several communities apart. Compared to Reddit the userbase at voat was small. To grow a non political sub on voat took work and dedication. It really takes one to two very active and motivated mods to get a sub going and stay going. It’s extremely easy to get burnt out. Over the years the majority of communities on voat have disbanded and have tried to replicate their subs on several platforms. Non have really matched the spark that was voat in its prime (IMO). I’m curious about how the future of poal and phuks relationship will work and how that relationship will effect community growth. Phuks seems content on small growth with little to no advertising on other sites were Poal seems the opposite, very eager to gain users and growth. Voat got its growth from Reddit fucking up and Poal was created because Voat is fucking up. Seems fucking up is the growth strategy here. There’s a lot of cross posts on all three sites. Does this hinder community growth? Just running “whatever” thoughts I had this morning. Happy Friday Phukers.

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[–] Owlchemy 7 points (+7|-0)

Having been posting on Phuks before the 'days of darkness' that chased many away, I think the philosophy of both is similar, but also very different. Just as when I posted to Voat, I posted here, and now it's the same for me between Phuks, Poal, and a smaller site Voten.co. Hell, I just enjoy reading rather than watching TV, so I share stuff I read for fun. Being retired, I have the time, many don't ... but I digress.

History: Poal is actually a recent spinoff of Phuks. The Phuks admins, to their credit, offered those who had a problem with Phuks TOS and wished to flee Voat the opportunity to use their code to create Poal, with a slightly modified TOS. The admins here worked closely with PMMEYOUR_BOOBS2 to develop and get Poal going. Kudos to Phuks for their willingness to share and help. So anyway, IMHO this leads to two separate, but similar forums. One, Phuks, doesn't permit (from TOS) "Posting content of any kind that incites discrimination, hate or violence towards one person or a group of people because of their belonging to a race, religion or nation is strictly prohibited." ... the other, Poal, has removed this TOS to the best of my knowledge. So a clear choice is given users of either or both.

Again, in my opinion, it was the overboard hate crap that was running down Voat as time went on. Years ago when I started there it was easy to avoid, but in the later days it seemed to take over and it was difficult to ignore because there was so much. So if I have a personal preference, it's Phuks, because of this. But like many, I'd like Poal to succeed, too, and I'll post there until it takes that same dive down. I fully agree with freedom to say what you please, I really do, but given the choice, I'll take the civil over the wild west.

These are simply my thoughts ... do they make sense?

[–] E-werd 4 points (+4|-0)

But like many, I'd like Poal to succeed, too, and I'll post there until it takes that same dive down.

I think this is inevitable. I feel that true 100% free speech, as it's seen at Voat, is incompatible with civility in the long run. The ironic part is that it's not even truly free, it's mob rule and you will be effectively silenced if your voice doesn't fit in the narrative.