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I have been thinking about community growth and how the voat fracture has split several communities apart.

Compared to Reddit the userbase at voat was small. To grow a non political sub on voat took work and dedication. It really takes one to two very active and motivated mods to get a sub going and stay going. It’s extremely easy to get burnt out. Over the years the majority of communities on voat have disbanded and have tried to replicate their subs on several platforms. Non have really matched the spark that was voat in its prime (IMO).

I’m curious about how the future of poal and phuks relationship will work and how that relationship will effect community growth.

Phuks seems content on small growth with little to no advertising on other sites were Poal seems the opposite, very eager to gain users and growth. Voat got its growth from Reddit fucking up and Poal was created because Voat is fucking up. Seems fucking up is the growth strategy here.

There’s a lot of cross posts on all three sites. Does this hinder community growth?

Just running “whatever” thoughts I had this morning.

Happy Friday Phukers.

I have been thinking about community growth and how the voat fracture has split several communities apart. Compared to Reddit the userbase at voat was small. To grow a non political sub on voat took work and dedication. It really takes one to two very active and motivated mods to get a sub going and stay going. It’s extremely easy to get burnt out. Over the years the majority of communities on voat have disbanded and have tried to replicate their subs on several platforms. Non have really matched the spark that was voat in its prime (IMO). I’m curious about how the future of poal and phuks relationship will work and how that relationship will effect community growth. Phuks seems content on small growth with little to no advertising on other sites were Poal seems the opposite, very eager to gain users and growth. Voat got its growth from Reddit fucking up and Poal was created because Voat is fucking up. Seems fucking up is the growth strategy here. There’s a lot of cross posts on all three sites. Does this hinder community growth? Just running “whatever” thoughts I had this morning. Happy Friday Phukers.

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[–] Owlchemy 6 points (+6|-0)

Maybe wild west is a bit harsh ... but my feeling too. Yet it's too early to tell, so I'll give it a chance. I do have the feeling it will devolve as Voat did though, which is why I prefer Phuks, if I had to choose one. The TOS here may limit speech slightly ... but even the US Constitution recognizes there are legitimate limits and lines that shouldn't be crossed. Voat's downfall is not imposing any limits, which may lead to the same for Poal.

[–] TheTrigger 2 points (+2|-0)

Voat's downfall is not imposing any limits

This, unfortunately, is a lesson that is showing to be hard-learnt. Although, those limits don't have to be overbearing. For example, enforcing sub rules, should be taken more seriously, to avoid cancerous run-off from spilling over. Making sure people have all the tools for self-censorship, would be a goal to keep in mind. As well as maybe sanitizing the front page. Leave "NSFW" topics hidden, unless you specifically log in and tick a, "show NSFW content" option.

I'd say to put all this effort in to allowing "hateful" content, while quarantining it from the "main" content, because a lot of those people would most likely still partake and contribute to other, unrelated, parts of the site. This is what, IMHO, allows the chans to keep going and remain so popular. You can go to /pol/ and talk all day about "the JQ" and "niggers". But none of that flies in any other spot, like /wg/ or /fit/; even though there's most-definitely overlap in the user base. But be strict about maintaining boundaries, so that everyone has a place where they can spend time— unperturbed by other factions.
[–] Owlchemy 1 points (+1|-0)

I definitely agree. In fact, the vast majority of my time at Voat was pleasant and I enjoyed the people and the content. I thought I'd never walk away. Back when it was easy to avoid the negative, there were unwritten rules and those who wished to shitpost or rant about nigger this, or jew generally stayed in their spheres and shied away from spilling over into the other subs. That changed. Wave after wave of new Reddit castaways found Voat and due to it's 'have your say' mantra, took it as a free pass to run rampant across the whole of the site.

Suddenly you couldn't post an archeological or science link without some kid (and I'm guessing kid, because the maturity level was so low) interjecting the hate crap into idiotic comments. Now I generally ignore such things and never lose sleep over them, but after awhile, it wears ya down ... it became like it was some badge of honor for new Redditors showing up to prove they were Goats now to spread their faggotry, jew hate, niggerisms around everywhere, like giddy middle schoolers. Then that crap began to become Voat's focus. Childish crap and those arriving who decided they'd chase everyone but their little clicks off. Like I said, I generally ignore such things, but after awhile it all adds up and it's time to let them have it and find another home.

That's kinda why I like Phuks, they try to filter out the hate crap and are also less political. So all in all, it's more comfortable here now, than it was after Voat got co-opted.

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