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On balance Native Americans are the worlds most successful mass murderers. They introduced us to smoking tobacco which has killed countless billions. There are more Native Americans alive today than when we first settled. We grew their population over time with industry and helped them to kill billions. It's all perspective I guess.

What's funny about this is that this is how SJWs think. They like to say we purposely gave them "infected blankets" when the truth is cross cultural contamination simply brought a disease they had no immunity to.

edit: Not all of history is a boogeyman waiting in the shadows.

edit 2: Shit happens
On balance Native Americans are the worlds most successful mass murderers. They introduced us to smoking tobacco which has killed countless billions. There are more Native Americans alive today than when we first settled. We grew their population over time with industry and helped them to kill billions. It's all perspective I guess. What's funny about this is that this is how SJWs think. They like to say we purposely gave them "infected blankets" when the truth is cross cultural contamination simply brought a disease they had no immunity to. edit: Not all of history is a boogeyman waiting in the shadows. edit 2: Shit happens

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[–] Adhdferret 4 points (+5|-1)

Get something straight bub. Tobacco in it's pure form (something we today have never experienced) I doubt is all that much worse than weed.

It was white man who added all the chemical shit to it in order to make it (((better))) and that is what kills you. In addition to the shit they add to the so called filter.

(Is a prairie nigger myself and I don't really like when people get history all fucked up)
[–] [Deleted] 3 points (+3|-0)

I literally picked it as a summer job in VA in the 90s when I was 15. It's not as good as the shit in packs but it's still damn addictive. Pure tobacco "aint gud" but neither is that manufactured shit.
[–] Kal -1 points (+0|-1) Edited

Did you literally do that? I literally get annoyed when people literally don't know how to use the word literally. Literally.
[–] [Deleted] 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

Sometimes literally means literally. I had choices. Then literally decided on doing that.

[–] Sarcastaway 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

Inhaling any sort of smoke increases chances of cancer at least a little bit. Heat and particulate both cause problems.

You're essentially right though. Bleached paper, accelerants, adhesives, MAOIs, menthol, pesticides, and whatever they make those filters out of are all far worse than the natural leaf in a long-stem wood pipe.
[–] Skyrock 1 points (+1|-0)

Pipe smoker here. There is a world of difference between chemically treated cigarette tobacco and a pure untreated Virginia or Kentucky blend.

The stem length doesn't really affect the mixture of the smoke, it only helps to cool it.

The biggest difference between cigarettes and pipes is that pipe smoke gets puffed and never inhaled, which vastly cuts down on health risks.
[–] Sarcastaway 1 points (+1|-0)

I used to enjoy a good pipe. Even hand some homegrown organic tobacco from a friend. Unfortunately the smell drove me off, and then health reasons made me quit altogether.

I actually disagree on the stem length. Longer stems do provide more cooling, which is a health benefit, but they also provide a lot of extra surface area for some of the residue to adhere to the stem rather than your mouth or lungs.

As for the mouth vs. lungs thing, I wonder how the natives smoked? Seems like a hard thing to document, considering the language barrier at the time of introduction.
[–] sidewalker_Principle 2 points (+3|-1)

Its a valid thought, although I think at this point if you are still smoking tobacco you literally are killing yourself. All the countless numbers of people who die from smoking from this decade and on, shouldn't be put in with the countless who were killed before word had gotten out that it was cancerous. I say this as I finish up a cigarette myself, so its not like I'm unqualified to talk on the matter.

But to touch more upon what you have to say, it is kind of fitting for this to happen to us instead of some other nation. Predominantly white Americans have tried to help so many other races only to have the majority of those helped races turn around and bite us. Yes, I do not deny that white men were to blame for a lot of tragedies done to other races, but I also do not deny that white men disproportionately contribute back to those harmed races more so than the others.
[–] COFfeebreak 2 points (+2|-0)

All the countless numbers of people who die from smoking from this decade and on, shouldn't be put in with the countless who were killed before word had gotten out that it was cancerous.

I started smoking back when advertisements said 4 out of 5 doctors said Tareytons were the best. Yeah, I feel so"cool" now, can't walk 50 feet w/o running out of breath and having to rest.
[–] [Deleted] 2 points (+2|-0) Edited

I should have said "I believe this is true today" where there's a warning on every pack. The Philippines is on a level that even exceeds 1950s-60s-70s-80s US. We still had a cartoon camel in the 90s if I recall correctly. That's when I started though I did quit eventually.

[–] sidewalker_Principle 1 points (+1|-0)

I've never heard of those cigarettes, and when I went to look them up all the images have people smoking them with a single black eye. What's going on with that, do you know?
[–] COFfeebreak 3 points (+3|-0)

I had forgotten about that. When you mentioned it I remembered the ads but forgot why until I looked it up

Tareyton's TV and print advertisements featured the grammatically incorrect, but immensely popular slogan, "Us Tareyton smokers would rather fight than switch!" Commercials and magazine advertisements featured Tareyton smokers with black eyes, supposedly to symbolize their willingness to fight to defend their brand and their devotion to the product. The slogan ran from 1963 until 1981.
[–] [Deleted] 2 points (+3|-1)

although I think at this point if you are still smoking tobacco you literally are killing yourself.

In the US I believe this is true but perhaps not in places like the Philippines. They market so aggressively over there that smoking among 8 year olds is actually common. Advertisers have a louder voice than proven cancer science.

[–] sidewalker_Principle 2 points (+3|-1)

Fuck you're right, didn't even consider that part of it. I've watched a lot of documentaries about the Philippines and other places in similar to it. I was very surprised to see those little kids smoking like it was nothing. Nobody even batted an eye. I know a guy who lived there for several years and every time we talk about it he claims that place is a shithole. Way before Trump ever said it.
[–] COFfeebreak 3 points (+3|-0)

that place is a shithole

Yeah, that's what My dad thought when the Japs were shooting at him. He was an artillery commander so he shot back.
[–] Lord--Gaben 2 points (+2|-0)

People should not be thought of as collectives.

Ya fuckin commie.
[–] [Deleted] 1 points (+1|-0)

When everyone's a communist then no one is. Don't be shocked when other narratives snap back.

[–] Middle_Pillar 2 points (+2|-0)

I can understand the thought process that lead you to this conclusion.

On a side note, I've always wanted to grow tobacco. Seems like an interesting plant.

[–] doggone 1 points (+2|-1)

Good analogy on the #whitedevil movement and the consequences of a clash of civilizations.
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