I've been convinced one particular regular voat user is FBI or affiliated w/ some govt. group. You can find plenty of stories where the FBI infiltrates groups and creates "terrorists" to prosecute. In some cases they've targeted the mentally ill and in other they've offered exorbitant funding to encourage a manufactured threat. Just search it. There's no shortage of cases. I'm thinking of a particular and constant voat user that regularly encourages violence and regularly escalates conversations to death threats. I can't be the only person that has noticed this cunts pattern. Do you know who I'm talking about? When voat went down I honestly thought this cunt had created a case.
It's respected to go against the grain here (assuming you aren't being an asshole) and be the underdog.
See, that's what actually drew me to voat (then whoaverse) in the first place. I left reddit when Swartz sold his stake in the company, and there was at least a couple years where I didn't post on any form of social media. Eventually I stumbled across whoaverse, just weeks before the name change. Back then it was easily the highest concentration of intelligent libertarians, peaceful anarchists, conspiracy theorists, and contrarians anywhere online. And even while 4chan was sold out, reddit went censor-crazy, and youtube was destroyed by google, voat abided.
But it would seem it was lower on the to-do list of the people intent on ruining the internet.
But then I see the rebellion against it too, less people plugging in their TV's. Kids growing up in the backyard again. I'm hopeful.
I'm hopeful as well. If there's one good thing about the internet going to shit over the last 10-15 years, its that the best among us are going afk more and more. I hear intelligent political discussion in diners and barber shops. I see the looks people give when they notice a tv showing cable news at the local bar or in an airport terminal. People are sick to death of the way things are, but they just don't know what to do about it yet. But one way or another, I'm positive they'll figure it out.
>It's respected to go against the grain here (assuming you aren't being an asshole) and be the underdog.
See, that's what actually drew me to voat (then whoaverse) in the first place. I left reddit when Swartz sold his stake in the company, and there was at least a couple years where I didn't post on any form of social media. Eventually I stumbled across whoaverse, just weeks before the name change. Back then it was easily the highest concentration of intelligent libertarians, peaceful anarchists, conspiracy theorists, and contrarians anywhere online. And even while 4chan was sold out, reddit went censor-crazy, and youtube was destroyed by google, voat abided.
But it would seem it was lower on the to-do list of the people intent on ruining the internet.
>But then I see the rebellion against it too, less people plugging in their TV's. Kids growing up in the backyard again. I'm hopeful.
I'm hopeful as well. If there's one good thing about the internet going to shit over the last 10-15 years, its that the best among us are going afk more and more. I hear intelligent political discussion in diners and barber shops. I see the looks people give when they notice a tv showing cable news at the local bar or in an airport terminal. People are sick to death of the way things are, but they just don't know what to do about it yet. But one way or another, I'm positive they'll figure it out.
Yeah I think you're right. I deleted all my social media around the same time. Been focusing much more on face to face relationships the past few years. Much better for ones health.
It's nice to hear the public in the states are waking up too. It really seems like the media and political class are just so far removed from every day life they seem less human every day. None of the bastards have a clue.
My personal theory is the world has grown too big. People respect local issues and local cultural influences. It's why Globalisation would never work. I'm happy to sit down for a beer with near anyone from around the world, but if they try and tell me how to live they can fuck right off. If they aren't my neighbour, why should I even listen?
Yeah I think you're right. I deleted all my social media around the same time. Been focusing much more on face to face relationships the past few years. Much better for ones health.
It's nice to hear the public in the states are waking up too. It really seems like the media and political class are just so far removed from every day life they seem less human every day. None of the bastards have a clue.
My personal theory is the world has grown too big. People respect local issues and local cultural influences. It's why Globalisation would never work. I'm happy to sit down for a beer with near anyone from around the world, but if they try and tell me how to live they can fuck right off. If they aren't my neighbour, why should I even listen?
It's nice to hear the public in the states are waking up too.
I'm not sure I can say its necessarily people waking up, but at the very least those that are already awake are talking more, and I think that's just as good a first step as any. It means the fear and hopelessness are finally lifting, and its a really cool thing to see. Seems like ever since 9/11 people in the US have been acting like they've had a minor concussion, and the head fog is lifting for some reason.
I agree that humanity has outgrown itself. Humans evolved to be tribal. This version of civilization we're using just doesn't jive with out biology. I agree about globalization never working, and I think even nationalism is fated to fail in the long run. As soon as you destroy tribal identity in favor of a vague group identity, everyone around you becomes an outsider. And when everyone alienates each other, everything crumbles.
I do wish we could go back to a time of small towns where everyone knows and relies on each other. Such a world would eliminate all need for social media, and I think people would go back to real interaction.
>It's nice to hear the public in the states are waking up too.
I'm not sure I can say its necessarily people waking up, but at the very least those that are already awake are talking more, and I think that's just as good a first step as any. It means the fear and hopelessness are finally lifting, and its a really cool thing to see. Seems like ever since 9/11 people in the US have been acting like they've had a minor concussion, and the head fog is lifting for some reason.
I agree that humanity has outgrown itself. Humans evolved to be tribal. This version of civilization we're using just doesn't jive with out biology. I agree about globalization never working, and I think even nationalism is fated to fail in the long run. As soon as you destroy tribal identity in favor of a vague group identity, everyone around you becomes an outsider. And when everyone alienates each other, everything crumbles.
I do wish we could go back to a time of small towns where everyone knows and relies on each other. Such a world would eliminate all need for social media, and I think people would go back to real interaction.
Yeah I don't get it, the upvote thing doesn't mean shit outside of enabling you to post more / host subs etc. When it gets too high I nearly feel embarrassed and get more and more tempted to delete and start over. You may be right though, it's definitely a recognisable tactic - I see it mostly coming out of the U.S. the fake consensus and echo chamber thing. From facebook likes, to twitter retweets, to upvotes on a news aggregate. Nearly seems less about the content and more about the consensus.
Maybe that's why there's a bit of immunity here though, at least for my generation and older. It's respected to go against the grain here (assuming you aren't being an asshole) and be the underdog. Events and people are generally judged on the content of their character. But I see the slow change as more American media is consumed. But then I see the rebellion against it too, less people plugging in their TV's. Kids growing up in the backyard again. I'm hopeful.