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[–] PMYA 4 points (+4|-0)

Is it a riot though? Because that description could be applied to a strike and would still be completely accurate.

[–] ScorpioGlitch 0 points (+1|-1)

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

First amendment, word for word. A business is not a public place. Private property is not a public place. Trespassing is not peaceful assembly as you cannot break the law and still be law abiding (peaceful assembly).

It's simple: If you are disrupting business, private citizens, it is not peaceful assembly.

If it is not peaceful assembly, it is violence. Violence with political change as the goal is, by definition, terrorism.

[–] PMYA 2 points (+2|-0)

How does this apply in any way to the post? What does the first amendment have to do with UK law, and how is parliament private property?

[–] [Deleted] 1 points (+1|-0)

ignoring pmya's good point about this being a /s/unitedkingom post, where does the first amendment say anything about a public place? im not reading anything about it needing to be in a public place. that does not apply. if anything you are providing a strong counter point to your own point. im surprised to hear you consider anything thats not a peaceful assembly is violence. i think that opens more doors than you might have thought when typing it.

[–] ScorpioGlitch 0 points (+0|-0)

ignoring pmya's good point

As noted, Mattvision took this to US events. I responded to that.

where does the first amendment say anything about a public place

Anything not private property is public. Every time, the results of such legal issues binds all public places with Constitutional laws since the premise is that private property is not state property. To that point, I can carry any kind of weapon I want on my own private property and so can anyone else (on my property) until I tell them otherwise. There's a totally different treatment between public and private.

im surprised to hear you consider anything thats not a peaceful assembly is violence

Well, if it's not peaceful...

Look at it this way... harassing someone is (in the US, if we're nitpicking) considered violence and is prosecuted as such. It doesn't matter if all you're doing is driving by their house and calling them vile names every day or just showing up at their workplace for 5 minutes so you can make 15 seconds of eye contact. It's harassment. Since harassment is considered violence, Maxine Waters did a call to violence when she called on everyone to harass the Trump administration. Since that's violence with a political or social agenda, it is terrorism. That there is codified into law, by the way... doesn't matter if it's person or property, politician or public.

Peaceful assembly is getting together to talk, standing and holding signs (if on private property then with permission, if public then not impeding people or business), chanting slogans, and so on. Anything else is not peaceful assembly.

im surprised to hear you consider

Lots about me.... like wasting someone's time is theft. But that's another discussion.