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[–] smallpond [OP] 0 points (+0|-0)

Drastic reductions in energy use aren't going to happen ....

Then I think we're fucked. I don't think there's any practical way to simply swap our astronomical fossil-fuel energy expenditure with renewables.

[–] Butler_crosley 0 points (+0|-0)

Not at the current costs. That's why I said the cost of renewables needs to be brought down to below the cost of fossil fuels. Humans can be creative and inventive beings, maybe someone (not a politician) can create some sort of incentive to help bring it out.

[–] smallpond [OP] 0 points (+0|-0)

I consider that to be ignoring the problem, playing into the hands of the companies who make money from fossil fuels. You are describing how we lost, not how we can get out of this mess.

We've had all the technology we needed to fix things up for decades - we just didn't act in basic ways to fix the problem.

[–] smallpond [OP] 0 points (+0|-0)

I consider that to be ignoring the problem, playing into the hands of the companies who make money from fossil fuels. You are describing how we lost, not how we can get out of this mess.

We've had all the technology we needed to fix things up for decades - we just didn't act in basic ways to fix the problem.

[–] Butler_crosley 1 points (+1|-0)

It's not ignoring the problem, it's addressing it. The technology may have been available but it has been too costly and too unreliable (hydro fails in droughts, solar isn't as effective in areas that have significant amounts of overcast days, and wind turbines only last about 30 years). Humans will always take the cheapest and easiest way available.

Looking at the reasons why something failed is a good way to find a way to fix it. Finding ways to reduce alternative power source costs shouldn't be confined to only a few corporations or the government. Remove the cumbersome regulations and allow competition to occur. Governments stifle competition for big corporations by writing regulations that benefit the biggest donors.

Btw, I'm still a firm believer that the Earth will fix itself, but humans may not be able to adapt to or be willing to accept the changes that occur. Also I think that this is a cycle that naturally occurs and am not as worried about it because Nature works in a longer time frame than we can accurately pinpoint.