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[–] smallpond 2 points (+2|-0)

Just a couple of points that I feel need to be said:

Top Time Trial strategies are the opposite, where top human strategies do approach perfection, so even though the complexity of Time Trial is lower, that of its top strategies is far higher, so AIs don't discover unassisted the long-range strategies people do, like creative shortcuts and lap skips.

If a script is iterating on a top strategy then it may under certain conditions outperform the top strategy, but I wouldn't call that an artificial intelligence competing with a top player, I'd call it a top player competing with a top player where one side of this self-competition is assisted by a tool.

People don't discover the long range strategies unassisted either. Once one person comes up with a breakthrough that information is available to everyone else. Everyone else copies and optimises it. I think you're suggesting pitting one AI against all players, rather than one AI system versus the realistic performance of one human. I wouldn't be surprised if an AI could outperform the entirety of humanity starting from scratch with zero help anyway, but that is a different test.

Also, every person or institution has limited resources and motivation. If that in some way discredits the Mario Kart AI, it does the same for the fighter pilot AI developed under similar conditions, and thus discredits the stated basis for which you think MK64 Time Trials will soon be within reach of AI.

One would reasonably expect significantly more resources and motivation to apply to a military application like fighter pilot training (and making fighter pilots necessarily redundant) than to playing Mario Kart. When I say 'limited resources and motivation' I mean relative to a research goal that's actually useful.

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