Cut me off. Shit your pants. Don't say thank you. Shit your pants. Be rude to customer service people. Shit your pants.
You were clear about your skepticism, and no accusation was intended. It's just that I used to spend a lot of time around car audio competitions. Because it's super impractical to build a sub woofer box that was tuned below the the range of the human ear, every now and then someone would joke that their system was tuned to the brown note, as an excuse for why their system didn't sound as they claimed.
In regard to the debunking thing: the "brown note" specifically refers to a frequency between 5 and 10Hz, and various people have tested everything in that range extensively. Which is not to say that sounds can't do some crazy things, just that there seems to be nothing special about that particular range.
That aside, I agree that most debunkers are idiots. Its one thing to debunk a claim as specific as "X method achieves Y result," but all too often people will just leap to "there is no Y result" just because they couldn't personally figure it out.
You were clear about your skepticism, and no accusation was intended. It's just that I used to spend a lot of time around car audio competitions. Because it's super impractical to build a sub woofer box that was tuned below the the range of the human ear, every now and then someone would joke that their system was tuned to the brown note, as an excuse for why their system didn't sound as they claimed.
In regard to the debunking thing: the "brown note" specifically refers to a frequency between 5 and 10Hz, and various people have tested everything in that range extensively. Which is not to say that sounds can't do some crazy things, just that there seems to be nothing special about that particular range.
That aside, I agree that most debunkers are idiots. Its one thing to debunk a claim as specific as "X method achieves Y result," but all too often people will just leap to "there is no Y result" just because they couldn't personally figure it out.
Thanks for supplying that info. That is fuckin awesome that you were into audio competitions. What kind of setup did you run? I'd like to consider myself an audiophile but to be perfectly honest I don't know anything. I've tinkered around with some stuff but nothing that even approaches amateur i'd imagine. Someday, though.
Thanks for supplying that info. That is fuckin awesome that you were into audio competitions. What kind of setup did you run? I'd like to consider myself an audiophile but to be perfectly honest I don't know anything. I've tinkered around with some stuff but nothing that even approaches amateur i'd imagine. Someday, though.
I never actually bothered competing, mostly due to budget constraints. I'm one of those people that didn't want to enter unless I was going to be competitive, so I never bothered.
I had a job sweeping up and answering the phone at an audio shop one summer during highschool, and made a lot of friends in that scene. I ran a 500 RMS setup with two Rockford Fosgate 12's in a custom ported enclosure tuned to around 36 Hz. Considering that I was driving around a tiny Civic back then, it was more than enough for my needs.
I'll be the first to admit that going for sound quality is a whole lot harder than trying to have the loudest bass. My first setup was pretty easy to build, but that's because I didn't bother doing anything besides the headunit and subs. The shop I worked for mostly did work on cars that were all about SPL (sound pressure level), and to be honest, there's a bit of a rift between the SPL and SQL (sound quality) competitors. Anyone with a thousand bucks and an internet connection can throw together a loud system, so the some of the SQL guys kinda looked down on the SPL guys. It was civil, but it was sorta like how a Marine might look at a national guardsman. Not hostility, but definitely attitude.
A good system becomes a freaking feat of engineering at the competitive level. Relocating speakers for a better soundstage, tweaking sound processors, ect. It's so far over my head that I gave up on that off right away.
I'm far from an expert, and I've been out of that world for a while, but if you ever want to run ideas for a build past me, feel free to shoot me a message!
I never actually bothered competing, mostly due to budget constraints. I'm one of those people that didn't want to enter unless I was going to be competitive, so I never bothered.
I had a job sweeping up and answering the phone at an audio shop one summer during highschool, and made a lot of friends in that scene. I ran a 500 RMS setup with two Rockford Fosgate 12's in a custom ported enclosure tuned to around 36 Hz. Considering that I was driving around a tiny Civic back then, it was more than enough for my needs.
I'll be the first to admit that going for sound quality is a whole lot harder than trying to have the loudest bass. My first setup was pretty easy to build, but that's because I didn't bother doing anything besides the headunit and subs. The shop I worked for mostly did work on cars that were all about SPL (sound pressure level), and to be honest, there's a bit of a rift between the SPL and SQL (sound quality) competitors. Anyone with a thousand bucks and an internet connection can throw together a loud system, so the some of the SQL guys kinda looked down on the SPL guys. It was civil, but it was sorta like how a Marine might look at a national guardsman. Not hostility, but definitely attitude.
A good system becomes a freaking feat of engineering at the competitive level. Relocating speakers for a better soundstage, tweaking sound processors, ect. It's so far over my head that I gave up on that off right away.
I'm far from an expert, and I've been out of that world for a while, but if you ever want to run ideas for a build past me, feel free to shoot me a message!
That's why I said its rumored. Still, I laugh at people who like to debunk/disclaim technology. I have always believed that the "current" technology we perceive to possess is not really the truth. The military-industrial complex is way ahead of the public when it comes to unique devices.
Any by unique devices I mean things that hurt and kill you.