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This all stopped about an hour ago. it's now 03:00 in NL and 05:00 in Turkey.

Perfect describtion about the events

Context

Dutch general elections are on wednesday

Turkish referendum to make Erdogan a dictator is in april.

summary:

  • Turkish foreign minister wanted to attend a AK party meeting promoting erdogan referendum in the Netherlands.

  • Dutch cabinet says we'd rather you do not. How about making it a small closed meeting at the consulate.

  • Turkish president Erdogan calls the Dutch Nazi's and a remnesant of Fascism during a political rally in Turkey.... (Painfull note, Rotterdam and its civilians where bombed heavily by the germans during WW2 while NL was neutral and no match)

  • While the Dutch and Turks are diplomatic discussing this issue and trying to find common grounds, the Turkish foreign minister threathens the Dutch with heavy sanctions on CNNTurk.

  • Dutch cabinet says "Ok" and revokes landing rights of the minister plane. Plane diverts to France. All Dutch political parties accept for 1 agree with this.

  • Turks sent the minister of "family" from Germany by car to Rotterdam to attend the meeting instead.

  • Turkish consul starts calling Turks to come to Rotterdam. (lied to mayor and cabinet about this)

  • Turkish consul in Rotterdam lied to the Mayor of Rotterdam (a muslim himself) about the "family" minister coming from Germany

  • Turkish supposedly sent multiple convoys / fakes to try and misslead the Dutch governement.

  • Crowds of Turks start gathering in the centre of Rotterdam outside of the designated rally zones. (mayor assigned 3 zones for demonstrations)

  • Rotterdam police close of the area around the consulate

  • The Turkish minister of Family arrives in front of the consulate and is stopped by Dutch police / special forces. Denied access to the consulate (consulates are unlike embassies not soveirn soil.)

  • Turkish minister of family refuses to leave her car outside the consulate for hours then she exits and is deported back to Germany being an "Unwanted alien" (Diplomatic immunity doesn't apply since she was not invited by the Dutch governement)

  • Dutch Riot Police cleared the demonstrating turks and disperses them with watercannons, mounted police and multiple charges

  • The Dutch cabinet and mayor have acted according to both domestic and international law according to several highly respected law specialists from multiple sides of the political spectrum.

Best English story as of now:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-europe-netherlands-idUSKBN16I07O

Dutch sources:

http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2017/03/liveblog_escalatie_turkse_mini.html

http://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/152734/LIVEBLOG-Ongeregeldheden-in-centrum-Rotterdam

http://nos.nl/artikel/2162700-minister-kaya-uitgezet-als-ongewenst-vreemdeling.html

Official statement by the Dutch governement:

In mutual contact with Turkey Netherlands has repeatedly made it clear that Turkey should not be compromising public order and security in our country. Talk about changing the meeting into a small and private character in the Turkish consulate or embassy where made impossible by the public threat of sanctions by the Turks. Then Netherlands pulled this morning landing rights for the unit of the Turkish Foreign Minister Cavusoglu. The search for a reasonable solution proved impossible. The verbal attacks by the Turkish authorities that followed today, are unacceptable.

The visit of the Turkish Minister of Family Affairs Kaya was irresponsible in this context. In contact with the Turkish authorities, this message has been conveyed again and stated that Minister Kaya is not welcome in the Netherlands. Netherlands does not want to work into implementing public policy campaigns by the Turkish minister in the Netherlands. Nevertheless, she decided to travel.

Upon arriving in Rotterdam the minister was offered all the options to leave. At the consulate she was repeatedly asked to travel back. Both Prime Minister Rutte and Minister Koenders have called on their colleagues. Mutual consultation has led that Minister Kaya will be directed to leave the country via the German border.

Netherlands remains committed to dialogue with Turkey. The government maintains contact with the Dutch local authorities.
This all stopped about an hour ago. it's now 03:00 in NL and 05:00 in Turkey. [Perfect describtion about the events](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6rjGTUWsAEDoNg.jpg) Context Dutch general elections are on wednesday Turkish referendum to make Erdogan a dictator is in april. summary: - Turkish foreign minister wanted to attend a AK party meeting promoting erdogan referendum in the Netherlands. - Dutch cabinet says we'd rather you do not. How about making it a small closed meeting at the consulate. - Turkish president Erdogan calls the Dutch Nazi's and a remnesant of Fascism during a political rally in Turkey.... (Painfull note, Rotterdam and its civilians where bombed heavily by the germans during WW2 while NL was neutral and no match) - While the Dutch and Turks are diplomatic discussing this issue and trying to find common grounds, the Turkish foreign minister threathens the Dutch with heavy sanctions on CNNTurk. - Dutch cabinet says "Ok" and revokes landing rights of the minister plane. Plane diverts to France. All Dutch political parties accept for 1 agree with this. - Turks sent the minister of "family" from Germany by car to Rotterdam to attend the meeting instead. - Turkish consul starts calling Turks to come to Rotterdam. (lied to mayor and cabinet about this) - Turkish consul in Rotterdam lied to the Mayor of Rotterdam (a muslim himself) about the "family" minister coming from Germany - Turkish supposedly sent multiple convoys / fakes to try and misslead the Dutch governement. - Crowds of Turks start gathering in the centre of Rotterdam outside of the designated rally zones. (mayor assigned 3 zones for demonstrations) - Rotterdam police close of the area around the consulate - The Turkish minister of Family arrives in front of the consulate and is stopped by Dutch police / special forces. Denied access to the consulate (consulates are unlike embassies not soveirn soil.) - Turkish minister of family refuses to leave her car outside the consulate for hours then she exits and is deported back to Germany being an "Unwanted alien" (Diplomatic immunity doesn't apply since she was not invited by the Dutch governement) - Dutch Riot Police cleared the demonstrating turks and disperses them with watercannons, mounted police and multiple charges - The Dutch cabinet and mayor have acted according to both domestic and international law according to several highly respected law specialists from multiple sides of the political spectrum. Best English story as of now: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-europe-netherlands-idUSKBN16I07O Dutch sources: http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2017/03/liveblog_escalatie_turkse_mini.html http://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/152734/LIVEBLOG-Ongeregeldheden-in-centrum-Rotterdam http://nos.nl/artikel/2162700-minister-kaya-uitgezet-als-ongewenst-vreemdeling.html ---------------- Official statement by the Dutch governement: > In mutual contact with Turkey Netherlands has repeatedly made it clear that Turkey should not be compromising public order and security in our country. Talk about changing the meeting into a small and private character in the Turkish consulate or embassy where made impossible by the public threat of sanctions by the Turks. Then Netherlands pulled this morning landing rights for the unit of the Turkish Foreign Minister Cavusoglu. The search for a reasonable solution proved impossible. The verbal attacks by the Turkish authorities that followed today, are unacceptable. > > The visit of the Turkish Minister of Family Affairs Kaya was irresponsible in this context. In contact with the Turkish authorities, this message has been conveyed again and stated that Minister Kaya is not welcome in the Netherlands. Netherlands does not want to work into implementing public policy campaigns by the Turkish minister in the Netherlands. Nevertheless, she decided to travel. > > Upon arriving in Rotterdam the minister was offered all the options to leave. At the consulate she was repeatedly asked to travel back. Both Prime Minister Rutte and Minister Koenders have called on their colleagues. Mutual consultation has led that Minister Kaya will be directed to leave the country via the German border. > > Netherlands remains committed to dialogue with Turkey. The government maintains contact with the Dutch local authorities. >

6 comments

[–] Boukert [OP] 1 points (+1|-0)

Tweet link about the legality of this all: https://twitter.com/mariekedehoon/status/840669362545655808
[–] jidlaph 1 points (+1|-0)

When you were talking about legalities in the IRC I thought you meant that what the Turks were doing was somehow legal, which didn't make much sense.
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