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[–] CDanger 0 points (+0|-0)

Sorry to be a broken record, but you still haven't answered why the west must intervene even if Iran is engaging in bad policy. There are lots of bad things in the world, and it is impossible for a few nations to police it. It's a regional problem that is none of our business. Furthermore, if it this were one of the very top worst things, that doesn't mean that we are capable of determining sound policy in response to Iran without inflaming the situation. As I hinted with comment about Rouhani, getting involved could provide ammunition to hardliners and prove counterproductive when there are forces pushing for liberalization already.

Not much more to say about Iran here, but the Pakistan business does deserve a reply.

I read about this years ago, and I'm sure there are better sources specifically dedicated to detailing the shoddy conditions of security in Pakistan specificaly, but reading Graham Allison might be enough to convince you to reconsider your assumption that nuclear weapons in Pakistan are in a secure state--and our actions and pressure have had essentially no impact there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Terrorism:_The_Ultimate_Preventable_Catastrophe

Sorry to be a broken record, but you still haven't answered why the west must intervene

It is a theocracy that wants nuclear arms. I'm puzzled how that wasn't clear from the first comment, or the article.

It's a regional problem that is none of our business

No. Its an international problem. It is a theocracy that wants nuclear arms.

As I hinted with comment about Rouhani, getting involved could provide ammunition to hardliners and prove counterproductive when there are forces pushing for liberalization already.

Still irrelevant. I'm talking about a theocracy that wants nuclear arms.

your assumption that nuclear weapons in Pakistan are in a secure state-

Where did I say that? Are you just making things up?

and our actions and pressure have had essentially no impact there

Who's 'our'?
The US was very directly involved in Pakistan attaining nukes, while the world watched. They were the ones that provided the missing pieces. They wanted a US partner to oppose the Russian sphere of influence by preventing India from having military supremacy in the region.
I remember it well. I was pissed when they gave the go-ahead.

Open a book once in a while. Wikipedia is only good for an introduction and a starting place.
I have been humoring you, but I'm getting sick of your games. It is very clear to me that you are not interested in exploring or exchanging ideas.
You are looking for holes to launch an attack.

You want to win.
You can't. You're a loser and always will be, unless you learn that none of this shit matters.
If you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong. Un-clench your sphincter an do something that makes you smile.

I recomend /s/cats. It always works for me.