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[–] Sarcastaway 1 points (+1|-0)

Or maybe, just maybe, "global warming" and "climate change" are not synonymous terms, which Trump knows, and he is doing his usual "the climate is fine" routine to piss of the media and support his coal friends.

I mean dear god, there are like a million valid ways to criticize this guy, but this article just falsely equivocates terms, and cites NASA's definition for a word that wasn't actually mentioned. It pisses me off because journalists like this are taking the bait. Trump is not an idiot, but convincing the media that he is an idiot has been his greatest asset.

[–] smallpond [OP] 1 points (+1|-0)

"global warming" and "climate change" are not synonymous terms

but this article just falsely equivocates terms

Can you elaborate on that?

I agree that Trump may be doing it to "piss of the media and support his coal friends" but I like seeing basic science in the news nonetheless.

[–] Sarcastaway 1 points (+1|-0)

Sure. Global warming (as defined in literal dictionary terms) does not necessarily imply climate change, which is why its such a poor term for what is being discribed. Sunspot cycles are one such example of global warming that is neither weather, nor a change in climate. Semantics perhaps, but I expect journalists to get the details right.

There's also just too much opinion for my taste. Things like "prompting widespread despair" and "suggesting _____" are subjective and hyperbolic. I feel they actually damage the credibility of a criticism that could easily and effectively be made on the basis of science alone.

[–] smallpond [OP] 0 points (+0|-0)

No, the journalists are right. Global warming refers to the average temperature of the earth increasing, and the modern usage of course implies that it is primarily due to human emissions of greenhouse gasses.

A direct consequence of increasing the temperature of the earth is disrupting weather patterns and changing local climates. There is no global warming of the magnitude we're experiencing without climate change. This of course is a little confusing, as people have trouble understanding why record cold temperatures can still be set while the global mean temperature increases. There is a variance around the mean temperature, and that variance may increase as the mean increases.

I disagree with the decision to move from referring to global warming (which is a PR softening of global heating) to climate change, as it sounds even more pleasant.

Conversely, the modern usage of climate change implies anthropogenic global warming, but again, the waters can be muddled buy saying obvious things like 'the climate has changed before' - thus trying to weasel out of the "anthropogenic global warming" part.

[–] ScorpioGlitch 1 points (+1|-0)

Bad orange man said something I don't agree with, pity me.

[–] smallpond [OP] 0 points (+0|-0)

For whatever reason, the leader of the most powerful nation on earth is making statements at odds with established science - pity us all.

[–] [Deleted] 0 points (+0|-0)

Trump doesn't care about your despair!

Why do you think the impact of large scale industrial farming is largely ignored by climate alarmists?

[–] smallpond [OP] 0 points (+0|-0)

Trump doesn't care about your despair!

Really? Well, that's news.

Why do you think the impact of large scale industrial farming is largely ignored by climate alarmists?

Partly because scientists are more concerned with the sustained warming of CO2 rather than more medium term effects of methane.. but you really should elaborate on the statement, so I know what you mean.

[–] [Deleted] 0 points (+0|-0)

Farmers don't create co2?

[–] smallpond [OP] 0 points (+0|-0)

Our breathing creates CO2 as well, but I think the main greenhouse impact of the dairy/agriculture industry is through methane and nitrous oxide. They produce a more intense warming, over a shorter atmospheric lifetime.

https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases

https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/