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I'm not asking what your job is. I have a job too. And so far as I can see, not too many people's jobs are enough.

At least mine isn't. I was told to go to college. So I did. I'm halfway through and I'm no further to being self sufficient than when I started. In fact I'd like to wager that I'm even further behind my goals.

I've spent years trying to think of a product/service that I could market. Everything seems to already be taken. Somebody beats me to the punch. It turns out to be a laughable ordeal.

All I want out of this life is to have my own little piece of land and enough stable income that would allow me and my family to survive. Comfortably, that is.

At this point in my life, close to thirty now, I have given up on childish dreams of ever becoming rich. I don't think I'm smart enough to be a tech mastermind making and selling startups. I don't think I have anything worthwhile when it comes to investing. And I seriously doubt my ability to continue on into University at the rate I'm going.

Is a mediocre life of fast food and retail all I'm going to get? I know I'm preaching to the choir here....

From a few conversations I've had with you Phuks, it seems like a lot of you are older men who have been very successful in your endeavors. Many of you have large properties and a lot of cash on hand. You guys have wives and children and several vehicles and big boy toys.

How did you get all that, though? How do I get to where you guys are...legally?


This post is bullshit. I know nobody is going to give away their secret nest egg. I just need some fucking pointers on what not to do.

I can already see a popular comment making its way here : "Don't complain on Phuks, retard!"

Well dipshit I don't have anywhere else to complain and I don't have friends to talk about this shit with. And say goodbye to any relatives who ever gave a shit. Cuz they don't.

I'm not asking what your job is. I have a job too. And so far as I can see, not too many people's jobs are *enough*. At least mine isn't. I was told to go to college. So I did. I'm halfway through and I'm no further to being self sufficient than when I started. In fact I'd like to wager that I'm even *further* behind my goals. I've spent years trying to think of a product/service that I could market. Everything seems to already be taken. Somebody beats me to the punch. It turns out to be a laughable ordeal. All I want out of this life is to have my own little piece of land and enough stable income that would allow me and my family to survive. Comfortably, that is. At this point in my life, close to thirty now, I have given up on childish dreams of ever becoming rich. I don't think I'm smart enough to be a tech mastermind making and selling startups. I don't think I have anything worthwhile when it comes to investing. And I seriously doubt my ability to continue on into University at the rate I'm going. Is a mediocre life of fast food and retail all I'm going to get? I know I'm preaching to the choir here.... From a few conversations I've had with you Phuks, it seems like a lot of you are older men who have been very successful in your endeavors. Many of you have large properties and a lot of cash on hand. You guys have wives and children and several vehicles and big boy toys. How did you get all that, though? How do I get to where you guys are...legally? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This post is bullshit. I know nobody is going to give away their secret nest egg. I just need some fucking pointers on what *not* to do. I can already see a popular comment making its way here : "Don't complain on Phuks, retard!" Well dipshit I don't have anywhere else to complain and I don't have friends to talk about this shit with. And say goodbye to any relatives who ever gave a shit. Cuz they don't.

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[–] Sarcastaway 8 points (+8|-0) Edited

The hard truth is that times are tough. People don't talk about it much, but automation is already killing off the workforce from the bottom up.

Today I work a job that pays just okay. I do better than just scrape by, but I'm absurdly frugal. I never eat out, I gave up all of my expensive vices (tobacco and pot), and I do everything myself rather than paying someone else. I live a peasant's life, by our 1st world standards. I'm not complaining about that, but it does wear on the mind. From the outside some might think I'm relatively successful, but I often consider selling my home (which I own a very small part of) and moving into a van so I can save for retirement. I'd love to own some land and build a small dream home.

I guess my advice would be to work your ass off while your body is still young enough to tolerate it. Consider physical contract labor to fill your spare hours. Shop around for jobs constantly. Always be looking to trade up. Go to interviews for jobs you have no intention of taking, even if offered. Wear those job offers like a badge of honor. Be social to the point of extreme discomfort. Networking is the only reason I have the job I work today. There are so many people unemployed right now that anyone who can provide a job will certainly have a few friends that would take the spot.

More than anything else, keep your mind in check. Life sucks, and then you die. That's always been the game, so why should it bug you now more than before?

[–] CDanger 1 points (+1|-0)

A lot of solid advice here.

It's very easy to get burned out, even when you are headed in the right direction. Keep sticking with it, but take some time off when necessary to travel/relax/etc when necessary to prevent a bigger burnout.

When you're house is paid off, you will be very close to set since your expenses will drop dramatically. Have a garden to grow vegetables and keep them low.