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@lockeproposal and anyone else who cares to chip in.

When did Europe forget that Islam was at war with it?

@lockeproposal and anyone else who cares to chip in. When did Europe forget that Islam was at war with it?

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[–] PMYA 1 points (+1|-0)

Sure they did, but that's what happened everywhere back then. It is also important to note the makeup of European armies. During those times, national armies were not really a thing, and big armies weren't a thing either. European armies were small and split up between various different noblemen and such. That is the reason we got completely fucked by the Mongols out of nowhere, because nobody had large armies and it took a lot for them to organise and agree to fight together. Muslim armies were far better at organisation, at first because they were nomadic forces, and later because their armies were more centralised than European ones.

Rome's influence waned entirely because of Rome. In fact, if Rome governed itself better, the church would not have had anywhere near the amount of influence they ended up having. When the Romans vanished, the church became the government. Whilst the church did use a religious angle to whip up armies from different countries, I would argue that the expansion from Muslim countries during that time had a lot more to do with expansion for the empire's sake, rather than being religiously motivated. The church had to use a religious excuse to get the armies together because of the makeup of the forces in Europe, Muslim leaders did not because the armies were already there.

[–] [Deleted] 0 points (+0|-0)

How were those armies motivated to fight then?

[–] PMYA 0 points (+0|-0)

The same as all armies. Money upfront and/or a share of the loot.