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[–] jobes 1 points (+1|-0)

ok, sure. I buy parts of that, not really the Civil War part if you really give a good look at the south vs north US and their differences (KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT, vs "we own you"), at least that's how my south buddies tell me...which is totally different than northerner kids like me learn. There was a democracy, and several states, who had rights to leave the union left, then they got invaded by a more industrialized region. (again, southerners description, I like hearing their side). So where's the "I want to establish democracy" in this "war of northern aggression" thing here, where they really illegally invaded several states who had the legal right to leave the union? Democracy?"

Ehh, that was rambling, but cigarette store is closing in 5 min, so I have to come back to this. Food for thought, the south US wanted democracy because they used state rights to leave the US union and the yanks literally invaded them.

Cool with this? back in 5-10.

[–] Mattvision [OP] 1 points (+1|-0)

Sure. I'm probably going to go to bed soon anyway.

The civil wars I was talking about are more like the ones that happened in Pre-WW1 Europe, Latin America, India (though not really a civil war, still a revolution), Australia, and China (the one that overthrew the Qing dynasty, not the communist one).

There's also Japan and South Korea, which are rare examples of people (mostly) embracing a democracy that was forced upon them.

[–] jobes 1 points (+1|-0)

So civil war is good?

[–] Mattvision [OP] 1 points (+1|-0)

You're missing the point. The civil war is just what usually has to lead up to the eventual regime change. If all those places could have had democratic revolutions by making British people feel bad like India did, then the point would still stand.

People wanted democracy, and seeing it in France and the US proved that it was possible and desirable.