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Bit of a story but I received a gun though inheritance along with a bunch of ammo (different types). I finally got a few minutes to look through what I have.

The gun is single shot bolt style (turn up, pull back). Stamped 308W on the side, assuming that's a 308 Winchester. Ammo includes 308 but, having become aware recently that a 357 can fire 38 special, I found myself wondering if any of the other ammo could be fired in my 308. After lots of googling, I see a lot of people arguing about 308 and 30.06 ammo and how they're similar and different. Of interest is that the cartridges are the same diameter but different lengths.

The question then is: Can the 308 Winchester fire the 30.06 ammo (because I have both)?

I've found nothing on this. Can anyone help me out?

Bit of a story but I received a gun though inheritance along with a bunch of ammo (different types). I finally got a few minutes to look through what I have. The gun is single shot bolt style (turn up, pull back). Stamped 308W on the side, assuming that's a 308 Winchester. Ammo includes 308 but, having become aware recently that a 357 can fire 38 special, I found myself wondering if any of the other ammo could be fired in my 308. After lots of googling, I see a lot of people arguing about 308 and 30.06 ammo and how they're similar and different. Of interest is that the cartridges are the same diameter but different lengths. The question then is: Can the 308 Winchester fire the 30.06 ammo (because I have both)? I've found nothing on this. Can anyone help me out?

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[–] Owlchemy 3 points (+3|-0)

Absolutely not. .308 and 30-06 are both 30 caliber, but cartridges are not compatible. In fact, though 7.62x51 otherwise known as 7.62 NATO, is compatible in many ways, in others it's not. Long story short, only fire .308 Winchesters from your rifle. See this article about 308/7.62 NATO compatibility

[–] pembo210 3 points (+3|-0) Edited

I would not recommend shooting any ammo from a gun that isn't specifically made for it.

Also no. The caliber is the circumference diameter of the round. Even if two rounds have similar numbers, they may contain a different amount of power or different weighted projectiles. Each weapon is designed to handle only that bullet, and could crack or explode if subjected to higher stresses.

The reason I had wondered is because the cartridges are indeed the same diameter (which means circumference as well) and the same projectile but the case is longer for the 30.06 and can be purchased in the same grain weight as the 308. Hence my wondering if it was like the 357/38s duality. But after reading Owlchemy's link and googling a few things I found on that page, it looks like they are absolutely not compatible.

And this is why I asked here instead of trusting not finding anything on the internet. Probably because most 308 owners already knew this.

Thanks

[–] Owlchemy 2 points (+2|-0)

BTW, the 38 Special/.357 Magnum compatibility is not unique, but rare. In fact it only works one way. You can fire a .38 Special from a firearm chambered for .357 Magnum, but you can't fire a .357 Magnum from a firearm chambered for .38 Special. This is because the .38 Special cartridge is just a shorter version in every way of the newer .357 Magnum cartridge. The .357 Magnum was developed to be a more powerful alternative to the .38 Special. And, BTW, the .357 Magnum is not a smaller bullet, both use the same size bullet .357 inch in diameter. They were just lazy back in the old days and rounded up when they named the .38 Special ... it uses a .357 in. diameter bullet, too.

There are other cartridges for rifles/shotguns/pistols that are interchangeable. An example being that you can generally fire a .22 Short, .22 Long, .22 Long Rifle from a firearm chambered for .22 Long Rifle, but again, ya can't fire a .22 Long Rifle from one chambered for .22 Short. But it's a very specific case by case thing, and extremely dangerous when you choose wrong. In shotguns, you can generally fire a shorter shot shell in one chambered for a longer one. That kinda thing. But always be clear on what you can or can't try before attempting. Explosive consequences can occur, so you did the right thing here, for the safety of yourself and everyone who may be around, always research or ask.

[–] ScorpioGlitch [OP] 0 points (+0|-0) Edited

Thanks for all that.

I allow and encourage myself to be completely paranoid when dealing with and handling guns. I assume that it can and will fire until it's taken apart to the point that it is mechanically impossible to fire. I don't care if I'm looking right at it and can plainly see that there is no round in it. As far as I'm concerned, there is. So when it comes to what a gun can do, I research like crazy and take my time.

For example, I have my conceal carry permit and am taking my sweet time about which gun I want to carry. I have a 25 auto but it's tiny and I'm too concerned about missing and hitting someone else so I won't conceal carry it. I have 2 357 magnums but those are a bit large and they have no safety mechanisms so I won't conceal carry those either.

[–] chmod 0 points (+0|-0)

OMG No! Use Win 308 only. You will have a bad day substituting ammo. Don't!

I know a couple of fractions of and inch don't sound like much, but your barrel will disagree violently.

Yeah, I figured that from the replies :)

The cartridge diameter/circumference is identical but the 30.06 is longer. Owlchemy pointed me in the right directions to highlight why that difference is profound.

Thanks :)