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[–] Justintoxicated 3 points (+3|-0)

The UN over the last two decades has been at best ineffective, at worst the enabler of corrupt authoritarian kleptocracies.

[–] CDanger 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

That's not a recent phenomenon. They've been doing this for decades.

[–] pembo210 2 points (+2|-0) Edited
  • Bezos has faced criticism in the past for the over $5.5 billion he spent on his trip into outer space.

He spent billions employing thousands of people for several years, expanding supply lines making future space flight less expensive, while developing a rocket with zero carbon exhaust. He took a ride on his own product showing his belief in his product. Those crooks should look in the mirror while holding up the salary list for themselves and the list of all the 5 star holiday resorts that they visit for "meetings" every few months if they want to complain about wasted money and a complete waste of space.

[–] smallpond [OP] 0 points (+0|-0)

I'm not saying the UN are saints or anything. However, the fact that they're saying refreshing things like this, and keep politely reminding the world about global heating, means they're doing better than our current leaders. Current standards aren't tough to beat.

I know space nerds like to draw convoluted paths between helping people and spending billions on progressing space technology, but they shouldn't expect to be taken seriously.

[–] Dii_Casses 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

I know space nerds like to draw convoluted paths between helping people and spending billions on progressing space technology, but they shouldn't expect to be taken seriously.

It absolutely does. Charity is the assistance of last resort; the route you take when you're just too stupid to find a better way to improve the world. Teach a man to fish, etc, etc.

When Bezos spends billions on space technology, he isn't just setting a big pile of money on fire. He's distributing it to hundreds of employees and suppliers, and those suppliers are distributing their money to thousands more employees and their suppliers, down dozens upon dozens of layers. And for every single piece, device, or material used on that project, there are thousands of competitors spending millions of man-hours pondering how they can deliver a slightly better version, or else use fractionally less resources to deliver an equivalent.

The economy is unfathomably complex, and no one person can replicate the centuries of R&D that goes into building, say, a toaster.

If I'm making my point poorly, go back and read pembo's comment.

while developing a rocket with zero carbon exhaust.

Bezo's ambition has, apparently, led to the development of some very potent propellant mixes that release very little carbon. He is creating the world you want, one incremental step at a time.

[–] smallpond [OP] 0 points (+0|-0) Edited

Nah, you've been drinking waay too much of the capitalist kool-aid.

Of course a little accidental good gets done by billionaires as they try to become even more powerful or fulfill their random private fetishes - but that's nothing compared to what they could do if they actually wanted to help people. Of course I'm not talking about just giving people money (though that would be better than space research), but about actively setting about solving humanity's major problems. We do have a human-caused mass extinction and global heating to deal with. Developing rocket boosters with zero carbon exhausts is utterly useless incrementalism - more of the same damaging distractions and delays that got us into this mess.