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I've seen multiple women's rights groups discuss this, which is shocking because I generally don't care. This inclusive movement is actually backpedaling on the progress they have made and is literally either making a joke of the system or removing the "rights" they gained

I've seen multiple women's rights groups discuss this, which is shocking because I generally don't care. This inclusive movement is actually backpedaling on the progress they have made and is literally either making a joke of the system or removing the "rights" they gained

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Your rights extend only so far as they do not infringe on another.

I don't remember what book I read that line in, and neither does Google, but it was in some political book that I read as a teen. It always stuck with me as a benchmark for what 'rights' people should have.
I do not believe in 'transgender rights' or 'womens rights'. I believe in human rights, and they should be consistently the same for all.

I have heard some complaints by lesbians against trans, but never paid much attention. Any trans-rights that directly negatively impact lesbians, or others, are not rights, in my opinion. And if it doesn't affect the lesbians then I don't care if they object.

[–] Dii_Casses 0 points (+0|-0)

Some lesbians are supposedly being bigoted because they don't want sex with a "woman" that has man bits.

[–] smallpond 1 points (+2|-1)

This inclusive movement is actually backpedaling on the progress they have made and is literally either making a joke of the system or removing the "rights" they gained

Sounds like you have some specific examples you could mention?

[–] jobes [OP] 1 points (+2|-1) Edited

Sure, here's a start. The headline is really shit, but the article covers some of the basic details.

[–] smallpond 1 points (+1|-0)

The number of 'gender neutral' bathrooms seems to be increasing near me.

If something is labelled 'girls' or 'boys' I think people expect users to be unambiguously of that gender, and I can understand some annoyance when that's not the case. I suppose in future we'll move further towards fully sealed individual toilet facilities so people feel safe.

"If we define sex, under Title IX, to mean gender identity, what we're essentially saying is that 'women and girl' can mean anyone who self-identifies as 'women and girl,' which makes the category 'women and girls' meaningless as a category."

There's some sense in that statement, but I guess I'd need a bigger list of specific rights that are being eroded by transgender impostors, before I decide whether I care or not.

[–] jobes [OP] 1 points (+1|-0)

I guess I'd need a bigger list of specific rights that are being eroded by transgender impostors

I don't have a huge list offhand, but the primary ones I've heard about relate to scholarships for women that transgender people can now apply for.