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[–] CDanger 2 points (+2|-0)

Strange. Anyone know what really is going on here? Who benefits from this? Lockheed Martin certainly doesn't want this to happen. The explanation of strained relationship with an ally so let's further strain our relationship doesn't even sound like a plausible cover story.

[–] Boukert [OP] 4 points (+4|-0) Edited

Turkey is slowly becoming a dictatorship like Russia. That's why the US and EU are very critical towards Turkey. Turkey is also fucking around in Syria fighting against US backed Kurds who where fighting ISIS. And Erdogan is angry at the US for not extraditing "suspects of the coup" and is using anti-Western/US propaganda at home to please his own Muslim constituents. Meanwhile he's also slowly getting BFF's with Russia.

So there is a lot going on, on multiple levels.

[–] CDanger 1 points (+1|-0)

Right, I know the backstory on this is deteriorating relationships. I'm talking about this particular weapons deal. Is it the US bluffing and witholding weapons that Turkey wants with the idea that Turkey would rather pull away from Russia that fail to get western weapons? Also Turkey hasn't had a smooth relationship with Russia entirely (e.g. shooting down Su-24 on the Syrian/Turkish border).

[–] Boukert [OP] 1 points (+1|-0)

Lawmakers in the U.S. House of Representatives released details on Friday of a $717 billion annual defense policy bill, including a measure to temporarily halt weapons sales to Turkey.

Think the idea behind this From US is to put pressure on the rising decline of democracy, massive arrests, purge etc etc. and this weapons deal is the victim of that lawmaking.

Russia and Turkey do have some friction but the SU take down was officially solved last year so the sale of S-400's could take place. Turkey fucking around in Syria isn't necessarily in Syria/Russia's disadvantage. The Kurds are not really on Assad's side so it's Turkey doing Syria's dirty work atm.

[–] ScorpioGlitch 1 points (+1|-0) Edited

"Sell us weapons or else."

Or else what, you're going to attack us with the weapons we're not selling you? Do they not understand what the phrase "glass crater" means?

Turkey plans to buy more than 100 of Lockheed Martin’s (LMT.N) F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jets

Oh, lol, go right ahead. Those planes are complete failures anyway.

Speaking to such a country from above, dictating what it can and cannot buy

No, it's what the US is selling, not what you're buying. I can't help but sit here and shake my head at how entitled governments feel about the United States.

[–] revmoo 1 points (+1|-0)

The whole point of the F-35 (aside from being a jobs program) is to fuck over allies with sub-par hardware. The F22 is the real deal.