I guess I just made the assumption. That's a pretty solid grouping.
I guess I just made the assumption. That's a pretty solid grouping.
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There is no indication yet of any link to terrorism, officials said.
Really? Did they miss the part where the guy ran down a bunch of bystanders out front of the NSA?
There is no conformation of terrorism, but there is a clear indication.
This is an unusual situation though, since it is the NSA, it could be motivated by anyone.
Every person and group in the world has a motive to go after the NSA. That's a long list of suspects.
> There is no indication yet of any link to terrorism, officials said.
Really? Did they miss the part where the guy ran down a bunch of bystanders out front of the NSA?
There is no conformation of terrorism, but there is a clear indication.
This is an unusual situation though, since it is the NSA, it could be motivated by anyone.
Every person and group in the world has a motive to go after the NSA. That's a long list of suspects.
Really? Did they miss the part where the guy ran down a bunch of bystanders out front of the NSA?
The NSA is a military organization; as far as I am concerned you simply cannot commit an act of 'terrorism' against it.
Even if it were Al-Qaeda or ISIS-sponsored, at most I think it'd fall under the heading of 'irregular warfare'. Assuming it isn't a more pedestrian offense akin to road rage.
> Really? Did they miss the part where the guy ran down a bunch of bystanders out front of the NSA?
The NSA is a military organization; as far as I am concerned you simply cannot commit an act of 'terrorism' against it.
Even if it were Al-Qaeda or ISIS-sponsored, at most I think it'd fall under the heading of 'irregular warfare'. Assuming it isn't a more pedestrian offense akin to road rage.
I get the point you are making. A targeted attack on military infrastructure could be considered an act of war.
But I disagree.
He attacked the public, outside the NSA. That makes it a politically motivated attack on the public.
Also, this is highly unlikely to be a state actor. He's probably alone or a part of a known terrorist group.
The definition of terrorism can vary, but usually goes like this:
noun -the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
By that definition, this is terrorism.
And unless there is another state actor, it is not an act of war.
I get the point you are making. A targeted attack on military infrastructure could be considered an act of war.
But I disagree.
He attacked the *public*, outside the NSA. That makes it a politically motivated attack on the public.
Also, this is highly unlikely to be a state actor. He's probably alone or a part of a known terrorist group.
The definition of terrorism can vary, but usually goes like this:
> noun -the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
By that definition, this is terrorism.
And unless there is another state actor, it is not an act of war.
He attacked the public, outside the NSA.
I disagree that he attacked the public. Sure a civilian was injured, but if 'injure civilians' wasn't the goal—and since this happened at the NSA's gates I'm assuming it wasn't—then that just makes the guy collateral damage.
That makes it a politically motivated attack on the public.
We don't have any information about a political motive, either. He could just be a belligerent tweaker that took a wrong turn and didn't appreciate the cop telling him to turn around, like the other incident mentioned at the end of the article.
Also, this is highly unlikely to be a state actor.
...unless there is another state actor, it is not an act of war.
Agreed. So far I am not calling it an act of war, either. There are many varieties of aggression against the government, from rebellion all the way down to resisting arrest.
> He attacked the public, outside the NSA.
I disagree that he attacked the public. Sure a civilian was injured, but if 'injure civilians' wasn't the goal—and since this happened at the NSA's gates I'm assuming it wasn't—then that just makes the guy collateral damage.
> That makes it a politically motivated attack on the public.
We don't have any information about a political motive, either. He could just be a belligerent tweaker that took a wrong turn and didn't appreciate the cop telling him to turn around, like the other incident mentioned at the end of the article.
> Also, this is highly unlikely to be a state actor.
>...unless there is another state actor, it is not an act of war.
Agreed. So far I am not calling it an act of war, either. There are many varieties of aggression against the government, from rebellion all the way down to resisting arrest.
There's a now deleted post on voat that talked about how this happened a few years ago, almost the exact same scenario and he had a couple of sources.... It was in v/conspiracy but the sources checked out based on comments I read (including one from Derram's bot that caught it). Can't find it since this morning and I just looked for it... So this exact same thing has happened from what I read and they're just re-running the same thing... anyone have info of the last one?
There's a now deleted post on voat that talked about how this happened a few years ago, almost the exact same scenario and he had a couple of sources.... It was in v/conspiracy but the sources checked out based on comments I read (including one from Derram's bot that caught it). Can't find it since this morning and I just looked for it... So this exact same thing has happened from what I read and they're just re-running the same thing... anyone have info of the last one?
This is sort of unusual.
It says several injured but only the suspect was shot.
So from that I would conclude there was no one else in the vehicle and the guy must have rammed them or something.
It also says he crashed but I don't see any damage the hood . So I'm guessing it rolled to a stop there?(I see the damage to the wheel and fender now.)I dunno, it just happened and details are sketchy. But that snagged my attention.